Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Oh boy, you need to go deeper man. You have explained it too simply, making me seem anti-immigrant or something, lol. But one gem I will give you is, people change, and times change. TODAY, it is my firm belief Pac would have changed and come more to the right. So would leaders like Malcolm X. You know, come to think of it, Malcolm had already begun to change, shunning nation of Islam for orthodox Sunni. Dare I say, given more time, he would have shunned that too and embraced something else.
The wisest people do not stay the same man, they adopt with times. But spare your fingers, we can do a pod on this. Because I really want to know what about the right you find extreme and if you condone BLM or not. Will talk soon hopefully.
Cheers.
I think the BC podcast should only be about cricket, lol. Lets keep it simple.
Pac would forget his roots as a poor kid from Harlem and Oakland? I just can't see how that would be the case given that I haven't heard any of the rappers from his generation go that route. Nas, Diddy, Snoop, Dre, the Outlawz, Jay Z are all 2Pac era and apart from Kanye (who's from the next generation) I haven't heard of anyone who could be even close to right wing. Then you have Mos Def, Common, Talib Kweli, Wyclef, etc...
There's just no evidence to support that Pac would do a 180 on policies that affect families just like his own so negatively. Can't see Pac being against welfare or supporting tax relief for big business or suddenly becoming anti-Mexican or islamophobic.
As far as Malcolm X goes anything is possible. He might have become a Hare Krishna, true. But he was primarily concerned with the African American condition and the universality he saw at Hajj appealed to his sense of a system that could work to bring all races together. There is only one other universal religion, and he resented it for making African Americans so subservient to racism. And before the NOI, Malcolm was an atheist (from the chapter titled "Satan" in his autobiography).
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Don't think he's mainstream. But he's got a lot of exposure. He's talented and some of his songs are good. His style is a eclectic for me to tho. But I support him cuz he's reppin BD.
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Pac would forget his roots as a poor kid from Harlem and Oakland? I just can't see how that would be the case given that I haven't heard any of the rappers from his generation go that route. Nas, Diddy, Snoop, Dre, the Outlawz, Jay Z are all 2Pac era and apart from Kanye (who's from the next generation) I haven't heard of anyone who could be even close to right wing. Then you have Mos Def, Common, Talib Kweli, Wyclef, etc...
There's just no evidence to support that Pac would do a 180 on policies that affect families just like his own so negatively. Can't see Pac being against welfare or supporting tax relief for big business or suddenly becoming anti-Mexican or islamophobic.
No, but Pac would endorse self responsibility and not blame the "white man" for his troubles.He would have realized this. The fact that USA is genuinely one of the most non-racist countries on earth.
And yes, all those names you mentioned, hip hop has totally aligned itself with the left, this is very worrisome, because hip hop was always about being different, about being the underdog. Not it is just a mishmash of hollywood liberal elite mainstream crap and a media front for the democratic party.
You are supposed to define hip-hop, not the other way around. But it has become very much the in thing to do to take advantage of whatever woke-ness that is in the air, and rappers are competing against each other to be the biggest SJW. No originality.
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You are supposed to define hip-hop, not the other way around. But it has become very much the in thing to do to take advantage of whatever woke-ness that is in the air, and rappers are competing against each other to be the biggest SJW. No originality.
Originally Posted by Roey Haque
The fact that USA is genuinely one of the most non-racist countries on earth.
This is true. But its a result of the liberal half of the population that is responsible for that. The fact that many conservatives have to go back to 1861 and cite Lincoln's Presidency to prove they aren't racist is perhaps the most cogent indictment.
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And yes, all those names you mentioned, hip hop has totally aligned itself with the left, this is very worrisome, because hip hop was always about being different, about being the underdog. Not it is just a mishmash of hollywood liberal elite mainstream crap and a media front for the democratic party.
You are supposed to define hip-hop, not the other way around. But it has become very much the in thing to do to take advantage of whatever woke-ness that is in the air, and rappers are competing against each other to be the biggest SJW. No originality.
Hip hop started out in the urban centers of the Bronx with black and latino artists. If hip hop was more concerned with blaming everything on blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, and trannies...that would be a lack of originality because it would biting the prejudice that has plagued humanity for the last 200,000 years.
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