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[Eshen]

As per Papon, they will go with one specialist SLA and one less batsman in the next match. I think this is the right course of action, nothing drastic.

Nazmul, who is now in Nelson with the team, said: “We need a specialist bowler and most probably they will pick an additional spinner against England. But it can be different in the game against New Zealand where we can go with eight batsmen.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/cricket/....xoh9l7RG.dpuf

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by BANFAN
কি বলেন, আমার কাছেতো "লেলিয়ে দেয়" কথাটা দারুন লাগছে। কুত্তা যেভাবে আঠারমত পিছে লেগে থাকে, তাড়ানোর সময়, স্পিনারদের জন্য ওটা পারফেক্ট মনোভাব। আক্রমনাত্মক মনোভাব প্রকাশ করে।

সাকিব, রিয়াদ এবং তাজুল স্পিনার হিসাবে যথেষ্ট। মাশরাফি, তাসকিন এবং শফিউল পেস। নাসির, সাব্বির অতিরিক্ত অপশন। আমাদের ক্যাপ্টন তো সপ্নের বোলিং অপশন নিয়ে মাঠে নামবে।

মিয়া ভাই জব্বর কইছেন ^^^

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by reyme
Pacers almost cost us the game against SCOT. Our world class pace battery managed a huge 1 wicket haul against SL. If we could have played 2 spinners against SL instead of pacers, the margin of defeat could have a lot less, resulting better run rate! Against SCOT, our part time spinners did a whole lot better that full time pacers.

I simply don't see any advantage of Rubel and Taskin over Sunny and Taijul.
If we have both Sunny and Taijul, most like ENG can be tied down within 250, even if they have most wickets in hand.

Against ENG, attack will be the best defense and best offense. Play with our strength, play with what will work. Play with spin. Hopefully we don't to have to remind the coach and captain that, if you win the toss, you bat first.

I am waiting for the day when we will get some decent smart people in team management.

Originally Posted by rinathq
and you are absolutely wrong in this. They struggled to score against Herath and Dilshan, they were terrible against Yasir Shah in the practice match. Vettori didnt even get a chance to run through them thanks to Southee and Boult finished it nice and early. That leaves us with Australia, a team with no spin attack and Scotland... the Shak-Taijul-Sunny combo is better than all the teams mentioned above and on a slower pitch, they will be very economical and grab a handful. Spinners are doing pretty well in this WC considering the conditions. Ashwin, Tahir, Vettori, Herath are all doing very well. Its us that are acting like our spinners cant perform unless they are playing on minefields. Truth is they can still perform better than our seamers at seaming conditions 9 out of 10 times

It is a MUST to play both Sunny and Taijul if we want to win this match.

Sunny will control the run rate and Taijul will get the wickets = simple as that.

[Eshen]

I think some of you making too much of a big deal out of Scots making 300+ against us. They are a decent team (especially Coetzer), the field was small, the outfield was fast, the wicket was flat as it can be. The pacers could have done better holding their nerves steady, but they crumbled under the pressure. This sort things are pretty normal in ODI cricket nowadays.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Shubho
The English would love nothing more than to face 30-35 overs of spin, particularly innocuous non-Shakib spin and all of it of the slow left-arm variety. They are fully prepared for it. And they are goading us into that stupid strategy. It's our own fault if we fall for that trap. A bowling attack needs variety. The fact that England has no variety (three tall right arm seamers who bowl in the high 130s and can't get the ball to swing) has been their undoing.

The way our pacers bowled against Scotland and Sri Lanka, I don't see how our pacers going to win the match for the tigers.

Pacers have to be spot on with variations on speed, swing, line and length, otherwise, we are going to give away the result in favour of the English.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Eshen
I think some of you making too much of a big deal out of Scots making 300+ against us. They are a decent team (especially Coetzer), the field was small, the outfield was fast, the wicket was flat as it can be. The pacers could have done better holding their nerves steady, but they crumbled under the pressure. This sort things are pretty normal in ODI cricket nowadays.

I am more concern about how our pacers bowled rather than how the Scottish have played!

[Eshen]

Against Lanka, the pacers were let down by terrible fielding. They lost heart too early in the match, which they should not. But if you want to point out the lack of resilience, the whole Bangladesh team is blameworthy in this regard.

[WarWolf]

Originally Posted by Eshen
As per Papon, they will go with one specialist SLA and one less batsman in the next match. I think this is the right course of action, nothing drastic.

Why does he have to talk about everything? Team selection on tour depends on the coaches and the captain and vice-captain. Why does Papon try to interfere here?

Worst type of evil idiot.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Against Lanka, the pacers were let down by terrible fielding. They lost heart too early in the match, which they should not. But if you want to point out the lack of resilience, the whole Bangladesh team is blameworthy in this regard.

True.

We have to play our best to beat the English and it won't be easy, thus, every player has to play his best and contribute accordingly. Let's hope for the best

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by WarWolf
Why does he have to talk about everything? Team selection on tour depends on the coaches and the captain and vice-captain. Why does Papon try to interfere here?

Worst type of evil idiot.

From time to time, he has to remind us that who is the boss!

[WarWolf]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Against Lanka, the pacers were let down by terrible fielding. They lost heart too early in the match, which they should not. But if you want to point out the lack of resilience, the whole Bangladesh team is blameworthy in this regard.

Top post. If 5-6 chances go down how come the bolwers do their job?

[MHRAM]

The problem here is that all of the spinners are SLA and no sense in playing 3 SLAs. Lets bring in Taijul or Arafat, Riad and Nasir can bowl their offies in tandem.

[Eshen]

If I remember correctly, Sunny does not really have much a variety. Unlike Shak or Taj, he does not drift the ball, or turn it, but just bowls flat and fast. In Australian condition, where wicket provides regular bounce, anyone with good hand-eye coordination (Hales, Buttler) should be able to blast him out of the field on regular basis.

Not sure why you would want to sacrifice the third pacer for him

[Rinathq]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Against Lanka, the pacers were let down by terrible fielding. They lost heart too early in the match, which they should not. But if you want to point out the lack of resilience, the whole Bangladesh team is blameworthy in this regard.

we dont ever blame our seamers for not picking wickets. But we saw the game and some of us believe that the way they bowled despite the dropped chances and miss fieldings was still very poor. I saw every single delivery of the 10 overs Taskin bowled, I saw every single of the 9 Rubel bowled..... Why were they let down when really the chances were dropped off Mashrafe?

[Rinathq]

Originally Posted by Eshen
If I remember correctly, Sunny does not really have much a variety. Unlike Shak or Taj, he does not drift the ball, or turn it, but just bowls flat and fast. In Australian condition, where wicket provides regular bounce, anyone with good hand-eye coordination (Hales, Buttler) should be able to blast him out of the field on regular basis.

Not sure why you would want to sacrifice the third pacer for him

but the way I remember, Arafat bowls with a good control and accuracy and mixes his speed up fairly well with an effective arm bowl.... And let me tell u something, bounce is not a bad element to spin and creates issues if the batsman isnt fast enough in adjusting his feet

[Eshen]

^^ With someone like Sunny, it's not that hard to see where to ball is going to land and how fast it's coming to bat (again, because of the regular bounce of the pitch, and because of lack of drift and turn). Don't see why a whole lot of adjustment will be needed on batsmen's part playing him.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Eshen
^^ With someone like Sunny, it's not that hard to see where to ball is going to land and how fast it's coming to bat (again, because of the regular bounce of the pitch, and because of lack of drift and turn). Don't see why a whole lot of adjustment will be needed on batsmen's part playing him.

Seeing the English cricketers playing late, you might be spot on on Sunny and how the English might play him...

Well, then Taijul, Shak, Mullah and Nasir might be enough, iff, our pacers keep their line and length right ->

[zman]

Originally Posted by kalpurush
Seeing the English cricketers playing late, you might be spot on on Sunny and how the English might play him...

Well, then Taijul, Shak, Mullah and Nasir might be enough, iff, our pacers keep their line and length right ->

Now we're talking.
If I were coach I'd give Mash and Taskin license to kill and ask Rubel/Shafiul to slow it down considerably and just target the right areas. It's easier to target the right areas when you're not going for express pace.

[Eshen]

I admit I don't watch the whole innings when Bangladesh bowl. From what I have seen of Rubel so far, he bowls pretty well, ie in right areas against right handers. But he fails to adjust against left handers. If the trend continues, he should sit out the England match (keeping Moeen and Morgan in mind, assuming Ballance will sit out to make room for Hales) and Shafi should be given a go.

[bodrul]

You must play your best bowlers - whether spinner or pacer.

Taskin - I am not impressed. He has pace but no control of line or length. But style ta bhaloi mare.
Rubel - No brain.

Shafiul is much better option.

[Eshen]

Actually for Rubel, there can be another solution too. We should consider letting Shak open with Mash anyway, to get Moeen out asap. If Shak-Mash fail, bring in Taskin. Rubel can be brought in once lefty is gone.

Main thing is that we need variety in our bowling so we can deploy different strategy for different scenarios.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by WarWolf
Why does he have to talk about everything? Team selection on tour depends on the coaches and the captain and vice-captain. Why does Papon try to interfere here?

Worst type of evil idiot.

More over, why does he give out the team selection ahead of the match, thus allowing opponents to prepare with lesser speculations?? It's stupid actually if he has said that

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by kalpurush

মিয়া ভাই জব্বর কইছেন ^^^

জব্বর শুনলে বলি খেলার কথা মনে হয়, যদিও খেলাটা এখনও রহস্যজনক। আর ইদানীং তামিমকে দেখলে "বলি খেলার" খেলোয়ারদের মত লাগে। 😂

বিষয়ের কথা হল: ৩ স্পেশালিস্ট স্পিনার এবং ৩ পেসার অবশ্যই দলে থাকতে হবে, যদি আমাদের জিততে হয়; একজনকে টার্গেট করলে যেন অপশন থাকে। রুবেল এর বদলে সফিউল খেললে সবাই 'হ্যাপি', আমি নিশ্চিত, ইংল্যান্ডের বিরুদ্ধে। 😊

"সাতটি ব্যট্সম্যানই যথেষ্ট" 😂

[Eshen]

Nah, I apologize to KP and others. You guys are right, should have gone with all three SLAs.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Nah, I apologize to KP and others. You guys are right, should have gone with all three SLAs.

You Just Gave in to the Crowd huh

Not a single wicket for spinners man