Match Thread: Bangladesh vs England | ODI 1, Mirpur | Pocha shaban series

[Kohli_Sox]

Originally Posted by Eshen
You think so?! He has average of 68.66 batting from the slot.

Management had many brain farts in recent times, Riyad's batting position is not one of them.

Oh please. Its not about statistics. When you are playing shabbir at 3, there is a hole at lower order. By applying common sense you stop that gap by playing Mahmudullah lower.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by Mas_UK25
Riyad bats better at 6 or 7 in Mirpur, at home. Period.

Riyadh averages high at 4, outside asia.

He batted at #4 in 13 innings so far, 10 of which are at home. Average in those 10 innings is 57.16. Very few batsmen in the world have that kind of stats even at home.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

Last thing the management should do is to continue messing with his batting slot.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by Kohli_Sox
Oh please. Its not about statistics. When you are playing shabbir at 3, there is a hole at lower order. By applying common sense you stop that gap by playing Mahmudullah lower.

Lower order hitting was not necessary today. Imrul gave a very good start, all that others needed do was to keep wickets at hand and keep rotating the strike. Riyad generally does a good job there, but had a brainfart today.

[MHRAM]

It was all about the lower order holding their own, unfortunately they failed.

It was lack of skill, lack of character that did us today. Unfortunately, these problems don't have any short to mid-term solution

[RealSports]

I hope in the 2nd ODI, we have this XI – Tamim, Imrul, Shabbir, Mahmudullah, Mushfiqur, Shakib, Nasir, Sarker, Mashrafe, Taskin and Shafiul. That's 8 batsman, but I doubt we will knowing how our management thinks. We technically went in with 6 batsman. No offence to Mosaddek, but he's too new...2 ducks already...

[Mas_UK25]

Didn't want to qoute Ehsan. As Kohli_sox said. I echo it.

Just to add. Statistics is all good to have but team balance is more important. If Sabbir is going up there, then we lack a good finisher at #6-#7. So Mullah is the finisher for t20i's. It makes perfect sense to keep Mahmudullah down the order, to finish off. And mind you, Mahmudullah is the best finisher we have atm. IMHO

[MHRAM]

True that Riad should batted at no. 6

Team needs a finisher. Mushy to bat at the top.

[Kohli_Sox]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Lower order hitting was not necessary today. Imrul gave a very good start, all that others needed do was to keep wickets at hand and keep rotating the strike. Riyad generally does a good job there, but had a brainfart today.

Do you even understand cricket? How does a team know that they need a finisher today or not so early when Mahmudullah walked in?

[NoName]

Tamim, Imrul, Sabbir, Mossadek, Rahim, Riyad/Shakib, Nasir, Mortaza, Shafiul, Taskin

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by Kohli_Sox
Do you even understand cricket? How does a team know that they need a finisher today or not so early when Mahmudullah walked in?

I understand cricket better than dim wits like you who was calling to exclude in form Imrul in favor of an out of form Soumya.

Innings building is much more important than having some flair at the end. ATM, Riyad is the best innings builder we have in the team. Again, last thing the management should do is to mess with his slot.

[Kohli_Sox]

Originally Posted by Eshen
I understand cricket better than dim wits like you who was calling to exclude in form Imrul in favor of an out of form Soumya.

Innings building is much more important than having some flair at the end. ATM, Riyad is the best innings builder we have in the team. Again, last thing the management should do is to mess with his slot.

Stop watching cricket because clearly you dont understand it

[horizon]

Well when I left home it was 45 off 54. Now I see this. I don't understand how to react!

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by Kohli_Sox
Oh please. Its not about statistics. When you are playing shabbir at 3, there is a hole at lower order. By applying common sense you stop that gap by playing Mahmudullah lower.

Yh, mahmadullah needs to drop down order, this is a team game, put him down the order and put nasir or sarkar in 4,they can get 30odd runs... Which in the grand scheme of things is OK if we have fire power down the order

[Mas_UK25]

Originally Posted by horizon
Well when I left home it was 45 off 54. Now I see this. I don't understand how to react!

Most of us here feeling, shellshocked, maybe numb too due to shellshockness. because it was shattering to say the least.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by Kohli_Sox
Stop watching cricket because clearly you dont understand it

I don't take advise from trolls like you

[horizon]

Watched the H/Ls.
Bangladesh needs to play the Leg-spinners better. Left hand batsmen has advantage but that's as long as two lefties are in two sides.

Towards the end, I felt the team panicked.

Anyway, take the positive, better luck next time.

[MHRAM]

Hard to take positives as a team in general. Sure Imrul and Shakib can feel happy about their batting but as a team it was a collective failure. Bowlers can be excused somewhat.

[Rifat]

I blame Mushfiq primarily and Riyad(somewhat) both of them gifted their wickets away...

[Habib]

Originally Posted by horizon
Watched the H/Ls.
Bangladesh needs to play the Leg-spinners better. Left hand batsmen has advantage but that's as long as two lefties are in two sides.

Towards the end, I felt the team panicked.

Anyway, take the positive, better luck next time.

The way the last batsmen batted after Shakib fell, my grandma could have taken their wickets. Those batters simply don't have the quality to survive against any sort of international quality bowling, let alone a leg spinner. Maybe Mosaddek can be excused as he is still a newbie. But once he got out, that was game over.

[Shingara]

Originally Posted by trixta2108
I support BD in every game they play except England

Typical Syleti in the UK. Full of identity crisis.

[Mas_UK25]

Originally Posted by Shingara
Typical Syleti in the UK. Full of identity crisis.

Poor post.

Blindly, just like how India and Pak fans blindly judge BD, generalizing.

What Identity crisis? People born or live in UK hold British passport. Sure they love their roots.

How you know the other person is Sylheti? He could be none Sylheti too.

As for myself, I'm Sylheti, I support BD always have in cricket. So don't generalize. 99% UK Sylhetis love, support Bangladesh than Most Deshis anywhere in BD.

[jabbar]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Lower order hitting was not necessary today. Imrul gave a very good start, all that others needed do was to keep wickets at hand and keep rotating the strike. Riyad generally does a good job there, but had a brainfart today.

The whole team had a collective brainfart. I love that word.

[Eshen]

হার মেনে নিতে পারছেন না মাশরাফি

‘ম্যাচটা অবশ্য জেতা উচিত ছিল। ৫২ বলে ৩৯ লাগবে, ৬ উইকেট হাতে। ওখান থেকে ম্যাচ হারা ভীষণ হতাশার’—কাঁপা কাঁপা কণ্ঠে বলে যান মাশরাফি। টি-টোয়েন্টি বিশ্বকাপের সেই তীরে এসে তরি ডোবানোর স্মৃতিও তুলে আনেন তিনি, ‘ভারতের সঙ্গেও আমরা খুব কাছে গিয়ে হেরেছি। আজকের ম্যাচও হতাশার। ৩০০-র ওপর রান তাড়া করে জিততে পারলে সব দিক থেকে ভালো অবস্থানে থাকতে পারতাম। সিরিজে এগিয়ে যেতাম ১-০ ব্যবধানে। সুযোগটা নিতে পারিনি। আর এই ধরনের হার মেনে নেওয়া খুব কঠিন।’ কণ্ঠে আরেক প্রস্থ বিষাদ ঢেলে যোগ করেন, ‘একটা পর্যায়ে যখন ওভারপ্রতি ৭-৮ রান করে লাগত তখন আমরা এভাবে ব্যাটিং করতে পারতাম। কিন্তু যখন ওভারপ্রতি পাঁচ রান করে প্রয়োজন, তখন আরো ধৈর্যশীল ব্যাটিং করা প্রয়োজন ছিল।’

ওই ধৈর্যটা দেখাতে পারেননি বাংলাদেশের ব্যাটসম্যানরা। অহেতুক তাড়াহুড়ো করতে গিয়ে আত্মাহুতির মিছিলে যোগ দেন সবাই। মাশরাফিও স্বীকার করে নেন তা, ‘আউটগুলো দেখলেই বোঝা যাবে, ব্যাটসম্যানরা কতটা তাড়াহুড়োয় ছিল। হয়তো বা আরো স্বাভাবিক থাকতে পারতাম। রান করার তাড়াতেই আমরা আউট হয়েছি।’ ড্রেসিংরুম থেকে উইকেটে বার্তা পাঠানো হয় ঠিকই। কিন্তু তাতে যে কাজ হয়নি, ম্যাচের ফলে বোঝা যায়। অন্যরা ইমরুলকে সঙ্গ দিতে পারলেই হতো। এমন বার্তা দেওয়া ছিল বলে জানান বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক, ‘একটা কথা বলছিলাম, আমাদের শেষ পর্যন্ত ইমরুলের সঙ্গে উইকেটে থাকতে হবে। আমি যখন যাই তখনো ইমরুলের সঙ্গে আলাপ ছিল, ওকে কমপক্ষে শেষ পর্যন্ত ব্যাটিং করতে হবে। সেটা হয়নি। তার পরও ইমরুলের যে পরিস্থিতি ছিল, ওই অবস্থায় খুব কঠিন ছিল ব্যাটিং করা। তবু সে দলের জন্য চেষ্টা করেছে।’

টি-টোয়েন্টি বিশ্বকাপে ভারতের কাছে হারের পর তাও মাস ছয়েক আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটে বিরতি ছিল। সময়ই ওই দুঃখ সামলে দেয় অনেকটা। ইংল্যান্ডের কাছে কালকের হারের পর তো সেই সময়টাও পাচ্ছে না বাংলাদেশ। কালই আবার দ্বিতীয় ওয়ানডেতে মাঠে নামতে হবে। এ অবস্থায় দলকে ইতিবাচক থাকার আহ্বান বাংলাদেশ অধিনায়ক মাশরাফির কণ্ঠে, ‘এ অবস্থায় এই হার নিয়ে বার বার চিন্তা করতে পারি। আবার পেশাদার চিন্তাও করা যায়। সিরিজের আরো দুটি ম্যাচ বাকি। সেখানে ভালো ক্রিকেট খেলার মাধ্যমে আমরা জিততে পারি। এখন ইতিবাচক চিন্তা করা ছাড়া উপায় নেই।’

http://www.kalerkantho.com/print-edi...6/10/08/414189

[jabbar]

Maybe someone asked this question already: who are these two bowlers Mossadek and Mossharaf? Never seen them before but they have not impressed me with their fielding, bowling or batting.

[Eshen]

Samakal summed up the match well - ক্যাচ উঠে ক্যাচ পড়ে