This news will be censored in Bangladesh - what a shame

[pagol-chagol]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/wsudan03.xml The Telegraph understands that the Sudanese government, which is deeply opposed to the deployment of UN troops to Darfur, has also gathered evidence, including video footage of Bangladeshi UN workers having sex with three young girls. Many of the children who claim to have had sex with UN personnel in Juba belong to southern Sudan's "lost generation", separated from their families by the recent civil war, who now sleep rough on the streets of Juba, the regional capital. This paper has gathered more than 20 victims' accounts claiming that peacekeeping and civilian staff based in the town are regularly picking up young children in their UN vehicles and forcing them to have sex. It is thought that hundreds of children may have been abused. Read the rest at Rupert Murdoch's Telegraph. I'll look for other sources.

[Arnab]

opening up a can of worms here...

[layperson]

All these perverted m***** f****** should be castrated. This is the only punishment for pervs who rape be it women,girls or men and it is even more heinous if the crime is committed on children !!!! Bastards.

[Hatebreed]

If this is true than it's shocking beyond disbelief. They need to put these men on appropriate trial, since they have "evidence". You can't judge an entire organisation or nation based on a few individual's actions. You gotta wonder why this footage is collected by "Sudanese government" who strongly oppose the presence of UN peacekeepers.

[layperson]

Originally Posted by Hatebreed
You gotta wonder why this footage is collected by "Sudanese government" who strongly oppose the presence of UN peacekeepers.

Dude, what is important is the crime took place and the article quoted the abused children. It does not matter why the Sudanese govt have videos of it. The criminals need to be dealt with. I dont think anyone is judging the UN for this but questions do arise about the people who are in charge of those peacekeepers and why they have failed in their jobs.

[Alien]

It will reach the news in BD no doubt. No one will bother to censor that.

[Hatebreed]

Originally Posted by shahriyar
Dude, what is important is the crime took place and the article quoted the abused children. It does not matter why the Sudanese govt have videos of it. The criminals need to be dealt with. I dont think anyone is judging the UN for this but questions do arise about the people who are in charge of those peacekeepers and why they have failed in their jobs.

Assuming it took place, and the alleged individuals are in fact real UN troopers, and Bangladeshi for that matter. That's why the matter and evidence must be thoroughly investigated before we make hot-headed jujdgement. Of course it's disgraceful and the guilty must be punished. Oh and don't sweat, at least all anti-gov't newspapers in BD will publish this news.

[gatekeeper]

Gotta nib it in the butt. BD peacekeeping forces have built a solid reputaion worldwide for their work, it is also a major source of foreign currency income for Bangladesh. Authorities must investigate this and punish the offenders right away.

That said, another school of thaught....."one should always take it with a pinch of salt anything Murdoch controlled media has to say." If it is true more reports will follow I;m sure. But BD authorities shouldn't wait for that.

[Miraz]

The evidence is with 'Sudanese' government against UN peacekeepers and 'Sudan' is strongly against deployment of UN peacekeepers at Darfur. In fact 'Darfur' is facing sever humanitarian crisis due to poor governance and sectarian violence and everyone is accusing 'Sudanese government' for their underhand in the crisis.

For this reason, I want to wait for a while before taking it as a fact. It can be a dirty trick from the part of sudansese government. Not sure though.

[Mohiul]

Originally Posted by Miraz
The evidence is with 'Sudanese' government against UN peacekeepers and 'Sudan' is strongly against deployment of UN peacekeepers at Darfur. In fact 'Darfur' is facing sever humanitarian crisis due to poor governance and sectarian violence and everyone is accusing 'Sudanese government' for their underhand in the crisis.

For this reason, I want to wait for a while before taking it as a fact. It can be a dirty trick from the part of sudansese government. Not sure though.

I hope what you've guessed is right .......... but if not then it will be very shameful & it must be dealt with proper care.

[gatekeeper]

Originally Posted by Miraz
The evidence is with 'Sudanese' government against UN peacekeepers and 'Sudan' is strongly against deployment of UN peacekeepers at Darfur. In fact 'Darfur' is facing sever humanitarian crisis due to poor governance and sectarian violence and everyone is accusing 'Sudanese government' for their underhand in the crisis.

For this reason, I want to wait for a while before taking it as a fact. It can be a dirty trick from the part of sudansese government. Not sure though.

Good point, but regradless, for good order, I think the authorities should look into it right away. Let them find out if there's any thruth to this.

[pagol-chagol]

Originally Posted by Miraz
The evidence is with 'Sudanese' government against UN peacekeepers and 'Sudan' is strongly against deployment of UN peacekeepers at Darfur. In fact 'Darfur' is facing sever humanitarian crisis due to poor governance and sectarian violence and everyone is accusing 'Sudanese government' for their underhand in the crisis.

For this reason, I want to wait for a while before taking it as a fact. It can be a dirty trick from the part of sudansese government. Not sure though.

That's the best case scenario at this point. That is a great defensive mechanism for our minds to function, but we need to fasten our seat belts for the worst case. I wonder who is in charge to tackle this nightmare for the country. Bangladesh Army think tank is probably on a tailspin on this. The magnitude of this, both ethically and financially, dwarfs a noble prize on the negative direction.

[pagol-chagol]

I couldn't find any other source in the web. Please post if you see any other link.

[mhferdaus]

Originally Posted by pagol-chagol
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/wsudan03.xml The Telegraph understands that the Sudanese government, which is deeply opposed to the deployment of UN troops to Darfur, has also gathered evidence, including video footage of Bangladeshi UN workers having sex with three young girls. Many of the children who claim to have had sex with UN personnel in Juba belong to southern Sudan's "lost generation", separated from their families by the recent civil war, who now sleep rough on the streets of Juba, the regional capital. This paper has gathered more than 20 victims' accounts claiming that peacekeeping and civilian staff based in the town are regularly picking up young children in their UN vehicles and forcing them to have sex. It is thought that hundreds of children may have been abused. Read the rest at Rupert Murdoch's Telegraph. I'll look for other sources.

Three points I want show you :

1. looks like the shagreds of centurion manik are now entering Army, we now must stop it. otherwise our decent organization with good reputation would be all gone .....

2. i wonder what is telegraph upto? i mean they said themselves that a lot others in un uniform were behind this, so why single out BD? are they afraid we are going to conquer their nation before the massive flooding ( ie the massive flood that would engulf all of BD and never return to normal ).

3. telegraph seems to have been siding with the perps by saying "men needing entertainment", well it would be nice entertainment for us men to see those perps and the reporter beng handcuffed and walked around the whole world ( seriously it might not be possible ). Anyways if there are deals to be made, then I would say shoot me if you want but punish them, Insaaf is what we are really comfortable with not bastardity ... Then end.

[Tigers_eye]

This is how you be a judge.

You hear both side of story first and then make a decision. Amar ekta paper asey ami tatey likhlam "Bush is a saint". That don't make him saint.

[pagol-chagol]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
This is how you be a judge.

You hear both side of story first and then make a decision. Amar ekta paper asey ami tatey likhlam "Bush is a saint". That don't make him saint.

Right wingers have a vendetta against UN and Kenyan power wants UN out of their to continue their dominance.

[Miraz]

UN mission in Sudan has sent four Bangladeshi peacekeepers back home on suspicion of 'Sexual Misconduct'.

From - 'Prothom Alo'

[babubangla]

Originally Posted by Miraz
UN mission in Sudan has sent four Bangladeshi peacekeepers back home on suspicion of 'Sexual Misconduct'.
From - 'Prothom Alo'

Sent back home!!!
This is plain injustice!!
The only thing these peacekeepers wanted is some "physical" peace
Was it too much to ask for??
Peacekeepers need peace too, you know!!
Peace keeping is not possible unless your body and soul are in peace.

Welcome Back tigers.
We won't blame you for wanting some piece of peace.
Now that you are home, you can have all the sex you want.
এই কে আছিস...

[Sauron]

The names and pictures of these "peacekeepers" need to be published and broadcast across all the media - internet, newspapers, TV. Pedophiles like these exist in all countries and all cultures and often they are the ones that you least suspect to be like that. This is a pathological condition that cannot be permamnently cured, but only controlled.

Regardless of what consequences this brings on BD or UN or Sudan, these persons need to be shamed openly - and jailed to the maximum extent that the law allows. Otherwise these same animals will repeat offend when opportunity arises after they are back in Bangladesh.

Thanks for bringing this up Pagal_chagal.

[billah]

This is the most bogus, phony balony report I've seen in recent times. It has the most common elements of propaganda. The so-called report does not provide one shread of evidence, except for claims.

[Zunaid]

I was curious and spent 3 seconds on a net search. From the UN:

Allegations of Abuse by U.N. Peacekeepers in Southern Sudan, a report by Elisa Burchett

2007-01-04 | There are ongoing investigations into allegations of misconduct by U.N. peacekeepers in southern Sudan. As of today, four U.N. peacekeepers have been repatriated and confirmed to be from Bangladesh. The date of some of these investigations of misconduct, including sexual abuse, date back to 2005. The U.N. Department of Peacekeeping Operations (DPKO) has been trying to prevent these kinds of situations, Ms. Montas said and that there have been whole platoons repatriated for not meeting DPKO standards in the past. (Ms Montas is the new Spokesperson for the Secretary General) There have been reports that children as young as twelve have been lured into the cars of U.N. peacekeepers with promises of cash and food. There are said to be reports from children themselves, of being forced into having sex and later being pushed out of the cars onto the street. There have been no names to go along with these reports of abuse as of yet but the Office Of Internal Oversight Services (OIOS) is reported to be calling on all parties to make available to them details including the names of children interviewed. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon stated the U.N. standard is "zero tolerance and zero impunity" on this issue. George Sommerwill of the U.N. mission in Sudan (UNMIS) told IRIN news, that the U.N. takes all allegations of this kind very, very seriously, indeed. Elisa Burchett U.N. OBSERVER & International Report Please also see: United Nations and Sudan http://www.un.org/apps/news/infocusR...y=Sudan&Body1=

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by billah
This is the most bogus, phony balony report I've seen in recent times. It has the most common elements of propaganda. The so-called report does not provide one shread of evidence, except for claims.

I really doubt that it is pure propaganda. I'll grant you that Sudanese Govt is using this to their advantage, but the fault is not theirs.

I saw a documentary in the documentary channel a few months ago on similar happenings in Kongo. They had hidden cam footage that showed UN personnel (south Asians and French) driving up to a local red light spot and engaging in sex with young kids. I have no reason to believe that it was an elaborate ruse on Doc Channel's behalf.

I know that all sorts of bad stuff goes on around the world, but when UN Peace Keepers are involved in this sort of thing, they definitely deserve to be treated as harshly as possible.

Child pornography and sexual exploitation is an increasing problem. This sorts of reports do need to be published / reported extensively so that the stakeholders (e.g. UN, the participating Govts etc) are forced to investigate and place solid safeguards against these sort of things happening.

Also, as a sidenote, between corruption and violent politics, given how bad our country's image is, I do not think this negative publicity adds anything extra special to the bad publicity that is already out there.

Let's concentrate on the possible crime, it's investigation and the safety of the victims. Not on saving Bangladesh's reputation by dismissing these serious allegations just based on gut feeling.




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[billah]

Originally Posted by Sauron
I really doubt that it is pure propaganda. I'll grant you that Sudanese Govt is using this to their advantage, but the fault is not theirs.

I saw a documentary in the documentary channel a few months ago on similar happenings in Kongo. They had hidden cam footage that showed UN personnel (south Asians and French) driving up to a local red light spot and engaging in sex with young kids. I have no reason to believe that it was an elaborate ruse on Doc Channel's behalf.

I know that all sorts of bad stuff goes on around the world, but when UN Peace Keepers are involved in this sort of thing, they definitely deserve to be treated as harshly as possible.

Child pornography and sexual exploitation is an increasing problem. This sorts of reports do need to be published / reported extensively so that the stakeholders (e.g. UN, the participating Govts etc) are forced to investigate and place solid safeguards against these sort of things happening.

Also, as a sidenote, between corruption and violent politics, given how bad our country's image is, I do not think this negative publicity adds anything extra special to the bad publicity that is already out there.

Let's concentrate on the possible crime, it's investigation and the safety of the victims. Not on saving Bangladesh's reputation by dismissing these serious allegations just based on gut feeling.




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Yes, I also think this type of incidents happen.

My comments were specific to that report only. Poor reporting, also, the use of the picture of a currency note, calling it evidence, then using an emotionally charged title "The Vulnerable Children of Sudan", it's just bad journalism.

[Mahmood]

Its on Prothom Alo today...

http://www.prothom-alo.org/index.new...php?nid=Mjc4MA==

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by Mahmood
Its on Prothom Alo today...

http://www.prothom-alo.org/index.new...p?nid=Mjc4MA==

Nice. Good first step.

Two things -

#1. PagalChagal's guess that this news will be censored in BD has been proven wrong. I am very happy for that and I am sure that PagalChagal is very happy to be proven wrong as well.

#2. The last line was very annoying though (due to sensitive nature of the issue, UN is keeping the names secret). Secrecy is the biggest ally of these predators. Their names and pictures should be made public. That kind of treatment will also work as somewhat of a deterrant for potential offenders (or repeat offense from the same dicks).

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