Discussion:Do you think Fame is ruining our players?

[DKG]

Players like Souyma Sarkar Al-Amin and Anamul Haque, have slowly been fading away from the nation,if you go to any of there facebook pages, it is littered with selfies, hanging out and adda, etc, etc. Especially players who have their career on the line, act like they do no care at all, and they are simply not hungry to succeed in Intl. Cricket.

Players like them, have no place in the side IMO

[jeesh]

Been like this from the time we started playing cricket. We rush players in, they perform for a few games, then slip into mediocrity.

2 main issues.

1) Some of these guys are not ready for international cricket in the first place. They are rushed in. In other countries, players go through a lot more domestic cricket, A Team cricket, academy training. So they know they have to work very hard to get a place in the side, and once they do they have to do even better to stay there.

Its fairly easy to break into the Bangladeshi team. Sometimes direct from Under 19, sometimes based on an individuals recommendation. So the players take their place for granted.

2) They cant handle fame. They get carried away with all the attention, get pulled into the commercial aspect. They stop practicing, listening to coaches, everything goes downhill. Our corporate houses are no less evil. They will even drag a player into their photoshoot night before a match just to meet their needs. Also lets not forget, some of these guys come from very simple, humble backgrounds. So its very natural for anyone to get a little distracted once money starts coming.

We all like to make fun of Mushfiq and Riyad once in a while, but i think these two gentleman set terrific examples for future cricketers. Maybe they are in ads, but they wont let that come in the way of the time they invest on their training-even in their personal time.

[DKG]

Thats, true, but some of these players have scored 50s and hundreds, and have had a decent amount of international exposure, why give up cricket for some stupid advertising contract.

The fact is, don`t take this the wrong way, but most of the players that do make it into the side are from a low-poor socioeconomic background, they are not trained to handle all this fame, this might seem harsh but thats the truth. Al-Amin for example, his family is not from the brightest of background(went to a strip-club in AUS), he will obviously go crazy, when girls start screaming out his name, giving him their numbers, whereas Tamim Iqbal, a player from a high socio-background is accustomed to these things, since they have been around it for nearly half their lifes, players like mushy,shakib and mahmudullah have had a good upbringing, you can tell by the their demanour and attitude towards cricket and life in general.

So i believe it is a contribution of fame and upbringing that leads to the downfall of some of our players

PS sorry if i sounded a bit harsh

[Shaan]

true though sometime fame can spoil one's head, doesn't matter what family background you are coming from, cause normal public don't cares about the people who are not celebrities such as sportsman, film actors or musicians.
Now not everyone who became celebrities did born in well established family not only in Bangladesh but you can see such examples all over the world. Thing is that how you can handle the fame is matter of self discipline and ones own character. When talking about professionals they do go through in their life such honeymoon phase with media and public at the beginning of their fame. some just cannot handle the fame, some easily handle it probably due to their strong mentality.

people like Sabbir and Nasir seems got too much in their head by the fame, if you follow their interviews you can see how much they themselves think how good looking they are and girls are crazy for them. This is not bad thing to self realization, but if you get into trap of mentality that yeah boy now it is time to have all kind of fun in the world right now cause i am famous then you are doomed. That is why their is this disciplinary issue which is why their should be someone who should take care of it for you, for your betterment, make you realize that this just a process of a celebrity life one shouldn't lost his/her head over it. This some one can be a psychologist, a coach, a board who can play role of big brother. Now if you don't care about all this then you are of your own.

[tiger1000]

Sarkar always lived on the edge...not going his way

Al amin doesn't get selected when he should, leads to further anger on top of his attitude problems

Anamul can come back, not like he's a bum, people forget it was injury that got him out and then sarkar came and imrul 2.0 has taken his place

Saying that, some of our players do struggle with dealing with fame

[mehedi]

fame is definitely a factor and also because of lack of education. some may disagree but i see most of our country sportsman have lack of educational background and hence they fail to live with name and fame they get when they become national heroes Ashraful for instance could have achieved so much but lack of knowledge let him down on the other hand players like sakib, tamim and mushfique are well educated and so they know how to deal with situations (UPS AND DOWNS)......... and they are most likely to have successful careers....

[Rinathq]

fame isnt something South Asian (brown people) in general can take in a good way. At least 99% of them cant. Shakib didnt take it well, Tamim didnt take it well either. Mash is from those 1% that didnt get affected and his fame came gradually as well.

BCB is very poor in player or talent management. They are known to be extremely lenient or extremely harsh on young players. Neither side of the spectrum is good. You need to cut them some slack at times and at other times u need to step in and control. What BCB does it punish! Thats all they do! They dont guide, they dont educate, they dont monitor... when something happens, they just go all out in public making these players look like the biggest villians and punish them.

Putting a sense of shame and fear isnt the way to handle mishaps or scandals. You have to educate them, keep them under observation, reward them at times. Its like raising a child

This will continue to happen because BCB wont change. These BCB top officials are mostly senior cricketers that never saw fame and therefore have a sense of jealousy inside them. So they wont try to help these playes but wait for them to make the mistakes and then lash out on them! Watch this happens with Miraz. I can totally see this happening. Mustafiz might be the only exception who wont get affected with fame because he seems to belong in that 1%.

[aklemalp]

What is fame, when fame is not fame?

[mufi_02]

It is about the personality. Mashrafi/Riyad doesn't come from rich families. In fact, I think Mash couldn't finish his education due to his cricket commitments. But he is an amazing role model and handles the fame to near perfection.

Go to fb page of any BD kids these days, they are all littered with selfies. So our players can't be different. Akram Khan, Bulbul, Shanto, Opee were no less popular than today's Soumya/Nasir. But while Akram and Bulbul handled it well, Shanto and Opee used the fame in the opposite way.

[aklemalp]

I think they should be more cognizant of the atmosphere when they are doing press conferences and other media related things...

[godzilla]

Originally Posted by DKG
Players like Souyma Sarkar Al-Amin and Anamul Haque, have slowly been fading away from the nation,if you go to any of there facebook pages, it is littered with selfies, hanging out and adda, etc, etc. Especially players who have their career on the line, act like they do no care at all, and they are simply not hungry to succeed in Intl. Cricket.

Players like them, have no place in the side IMO

I'll be the thorn and stick out of the bush and just say it, What does taking selfie/chilling with your homies have to do with any of these? Hell I have a sh*tty day at school and work sometimes, that doesn't mean am going to look like a depressed f*ck and be sad all day. I'll still go out with friends and post pics if I want to.

Posting pic or chilling with your homeboys =/= fame getting the best of you. Showing up late or not even showing up for practice or behavior getting out of hand is what you're looking for.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by aklemalp
What is fame, when fame is not fame?

Fame= Universe boss.

Fame is not fame - Sammy.

[aklemalp]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Fame= Universe boss.

Fame is not fame - Sammy.

Tiger_eyes bhai, is this an equation of sorts?

Fame = Universe Boss


So, substituting this in the expression:

(Universe Boss) is not (Universe Boss) minus Sammy.

This expression is equivalent to:

1/(sqrt(2*((Shamim*d)/pi))); where d is the delectable constant and Shamim is the variable which can take the values ranging from -infinity to 0.0015