If Zimbabwe can defeat Australia in WU and 2007 T20 WC, why can't we?

[simon]

I think Zim in limited overs bat better than us against the pace attck.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by beshideshi
Areh Bond bhai, Ash did not bowl that day, BD wanted to have some batting practice and just let Aus score. :P
but on a serious note, if we are to win against Pak or Aus our best bet is to score 180-190. Which means the game must be won while batting, our bowlers are simply not good enough to restrict the opponent in T20s

haha I like the way you think

[zainab]

This was a practise match, in the real match, it is a different ball game. BTW, Lee is out and Bollinger will take his place, he is a good 20/20 bowler.played well in the IPL, gave Chennai their victory.

[al-Sagar]

Originally Posted by zainab
This was a practise match, in the real match, it is a different ball game. BTW, Lee is out and Bollinger will take his place, he is a good 20/20 bowler.played well in the IPL, gave Chennai their victory.

no, not bollinger. ryan harris is taking lee's place

[Bond]

Originally Posted by zainab
This was a practise match, in the real match, it is a different ball game. BTW, Lee is out and Bollinger will take his place, he is a good 20/20 bowler.played well in the IPL, gave Chennai their victory.

Actually, Ryan Harris is replacing Lee.

[Equinox]

It never ever works that way.

[Imteaz]

^^ Abslutely.

Result in practice match never shows reality. We performed very well in previous T20 WC practice matches. What was the result? Pathetic. Forget so early!!!!!!

[AK420]

I think we are so weak because the lack of commitment of our players. If your players are commited, you can win even if you are not strong. This commitment does not come from experience or talent, it comes from man's strongest weapon, that is the brain, powerful enough to think about Lotus dancing in the middle of a conference

[unda_bhai]

sadly transitivity dosnt always apply in sports...perhaps never for that matter.

[yaseer]

Originally Posted by AK420
I think we are so weak because the lack of commitment of our players. If your players are commited, you can win even if you are not strong. This commitment does not come from experience or talent, it comes from man's strongest weapon, that is the brain, powerful enough to think about Lotus dancing in the middle of a conference

I do not think commitment is the issue here. For the sake of argument, lets say players are not committed to the team, but still if they perform well in WC, they can get lucrative IPL contract. In either way, players are committed and going to try their best.

Issue here is the capability. Do our batsmen are really capable enough to consistently find boundaries against the 140+ Aussie bowlers without slogging or loosing wicket? Answer in a big NO. Players like Riyad, Nayeem, Mushfiq, Imrul are not good enough to score against quality fast bowlers in a way that 20/20 demands.

[AK420]

Originally Posted by yaseer
I do not think commitment is the issue here. For the sake of argument, lets say players are not committed to the team, but still if they perform well in WC, they can get lucrative IPL contract. In either way, players are committed and going to try their best.

Issue here is the capability. Do our batsmen are really capable enough to consistently find boundaries against the 140+ Aussie bowlers without slogging or loosing wicket? Answer in a big NO. Players like Riyad, Nayeem, Mushfiq, Imrul are not good enough to score against quality fast bowlers in a way that 20/20 demands.

u r also right, but the main problem is the incapability od our selectors, why are players like Naeem and Mushy is there when we have Dickens and Kapali

[zainab]

BD players have not mastered the art of playing 20/20 cricket, they have to find the boundaries and hit a few sixes, I dont think that their upper bodies are strong enough for that slog, they need to work out more in the gym and build upper body and arm strength.
I read somewhere that on tours now, the ICC will allow 2 twenty/twenty matches between countries.

[ahms]

Originally Posted by AK420
According to cricinfo, Zimbabwe defeated the Aussies by 1 run(Would have been more) in a warm up match today. And to think of it Garry expected Aussies to go to win the cup.

Now we should take this as inspiration and look ahead. If Zim can do it why cant we defeat the World ODI Champions. Remember, Zim defeated the Aussies in 2007 WC as well. Now, we are being considered a stronger team as Zim with some training. Now what we just need to concentrate on thrashing on our opponents, no need to look back, just look forward and remember that we too defeated them in 2005.

So its not impossible to defeat both Australia and Pakistan. Infact, we just might go on to winning the World Cup

Actually, BD should target AUS, even though odds are agaimst us. The more odds the better chance for upset. After all, it is an upset; we do not match in strength either of the teams in this group. Lets hope there is an upset.

[AK420]

^^^ They should target both Australia and Pakistan. Na jitle jitbo na, tobe chesta korte hobe. Naeem policy follow korle hobe na

[auntu]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Indeed indeed. They're the better team in T20s.

No doubt.

[AK420]

All is not well, if we lose, again

[bujhee kom]

Amra jodi jed dhori, tahole amra nishchoi parbo! Ora parle amra keno parbo naa?

[Awla]

Lets Face the Truth: Our players(specially Ash,Aftab etc.) thinks that whatever they perform it will not affect on their position in the side. Even if they are dropped out for few matches,they'll again be included in the squad.
Its obvious because we dont have enough qualified backup players. Even if we replace a player, that doesnt change in overall standard of playing XI.More or less they are all of same lavel.
Yes,we have good promising talents like Tamim,Sakib,Mash,Riad,Mushi...as like as Ashraful had shown such talents..but look at him now...after playing 53 tests & 159 ODIs(abot 10 years) where he stands now? avg 22/23!! ...thats because of inability to raise the bar where talent meets with consistency & concentration.....and also other players Aftab,Nafees,Alok etc....they all got stuck within a certain level....mayb its because of our Domestic structure/training facilities/physical structure/whatever the reason.....with this standard we may play few good matches in a year..but with no consistency..
I am not saying that we'll always remain same as we are in present..may be in future things will start to improve....but for now I dont think we can hope anything more

[22Yards]

Aussies will be more alert now that they got beaten by Zim.
Even though if our batsman manage to get odd 160 150, we still dont stand a chance as someone said earlier, our bowling attack would get THRASHED literally by any international team.

[Raynman]

thankfully ZIM is not in our group. They are about to beat PAK as well.

[22Yards]

Go Zim.

[simon]

Welldone Zim;u guys r way bttr than us in T20s.

[Purbasha T]

Wowww!! WTG Zim!!....Reasons to be cheerful, Utseya took 4 wickets and we have two off-spinners Naeem and Riyad. Fingers crossed.

[Purbasha T]

Let's all visit PakPassion now.

[al-Sagar]

Originally Posted by Purbasha T
Wowww!! WTG Zim!!....Reasons to be cheerful, Utseya took 4 wickets and we have two off-spinners Naeem and Riyad. Fingers crossed.

both naeem and riadh together is not half as good as utseya, honestly speaking.