What's Walsh doing

[Eclipse]

Title says it all. I really wanna know what has he been doing with our bowlers ?


We got really excited when BCB announced Caribbean great Walsh as our new bowling coach.


Sadly I am not seeing any improvement in our fast bowling. Under Walsh only Mash has improved a bit, but all the other bowlers have turned into brainless trundlers.


Today, barring fizz not a single bowler even tried to bowl any slower delivery or yorker in the death overs. All they were doing was bowling gun barrel straight, short or half volleys at the back end of the innings.

[aklemalp]

Does walsh have to spoon-fed anyone?

If Mash improved, isn't that an inspiration for the rest to up their game as well?

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Eclipse
Title says it all. I really wanna know what has he been doing with our bowlers ?


We got really excited when BCB announced Caribbean great Walsh as our new bowling coach.


Sadly I am not seeing any improvement in our fast bowling. Under Walsh only Mash has improved a bit, but all the other bowlers have turned into brainless trundlers.


Today, barring fizz not a single bowler even tried to bowl any slower delivery or yorker in the death overs. All they were doing was bowling gun barrel straight, short or half volleys at the back end of the innings.

Cricket is a process, you can NOT improve in a day or two!

Give him a time period of two year or so and then see what has improved under his coaching...

[Rifat]

Shafiul says he improved under Walsh.so...Walsh may be onto something here.

[mij]

Our bowlers learning ability is next to none. We need coach like H.S.

[Dilscoop]

Walsh changed Fizz's action! That's what he's doing.

While all that videos you guys were posting during BPL where he was working alone with Fizz, I kept thinking he better not be motoborring with our guy and he did! He already brought in Robi, Roy and all that other nonsense bowlers and kicked out Rubel, Al-Amin!

Mash has been in good touch since WC15. He's been bowling with good econ and picking up wickets at the right time. He has been using all his experience and IQ. Walsh don't have any effect on Mash.

Walsh is not a coach. He's a cricket player. Stop bring in players to coach, two whole different thing.

[Moh899]

To this date I have not seen any positive outcome from Walsh after joining us. And Im not so optimistic anymore. For example, since day one under Heath Streak, Alamin has been an excellent bowler upfront, in death and anywhere else you wanna bowl him. And same can be said about our whole pace attack, it worked as a tram and got the job done under Heath perfectly. But after he left, I just never saw that fire and venom in this attack again. Alamin is lost, taskin lost everything good he had in him and our pace attack is just not doing the job anymore. So maybe and hopefully Im wrong but still im really worried about wtf is going on behind the scenes. Sorry o say but not a fan of Walsh yet.

[jeesh]

Good point Moh899. Streak's impact was felt from the beginning.

Like i mentioned in another thread. His coaching philosophy (As mentioned by Zimbabwean Commentator) was: always bowl targeting top of off stump, if things are not going well, target top of off stump, if nothing is working, still bowl top of off stump.

I think our boys need this simple practical approach. Focus on the basics, keep stressing on that point over and over again. Not to mention how hands on Streak was, outlining clear plan for bowlers before game, speaking to them in the sidelines.

That determined, fighting character that our bowlers had under Streak has worn off bit by bit.

[tanvir_nus]

The reason Heath Streak was so successful is because he set plans for Bangladeshi bowlers. If you look at the practice sessions under streak he would emphasize on yorker bowling, 4th stump bowling and would even set marks that bowlers needed to hit during practice. He was specific and also a great motivator. Compared to Walsh, who seems to be just laid back and disinterested most of the times, Heath Streak will probably remain one of the best bowling coaches for a long time. Under Walsh we seem to be regressing with introduction of Kamrul Rabbi, Shafiul and S.Roy all of whom a year ago would dream to be even around the national team, now they are making up the whole of the fast bowling squad. The change is very worrying if you ask me.

Need to rethink pretty soon. I would beg streak to get back if I was BCB.

[tanvir_nus]

Originally Posted by jeesh
Good point Moh899. Streak's impact was felt from the beginning.

Like i mentioned in another thread. His coaching philosophy (As mentioned by Zimbabwean Commentator) was: always bowl targeting top of off stump, if things are not going well, target top of off stump, if nothing is working, still bowl top of off stump.

I think our boys need this simple practical approach. Focus on the basics, keep stressing on that point over and over again. Not to mention how hands on Streak was, outlining clear plan for bowlers before game, speaking to them in the sidelines.

That determined, fighting character that our bowlers had under Streak has worn off bit by bit.

Lol, co-incidentally, we posted almost the same stuff at the same time. You are a wise man.

[Moh899]

The biggest reward Heath taught us was to restrict Indias too notch batting line up to only 143 in the T20 World Cup. So imagine what kind of thinking and planning he did behind the scenes to tackle that batting line in one of the flattest wickets in india.

[jeesh]

Originally Posted by tanvir_nus
Lol, co-incidentally, we posted almost the same stuff at the same time. You are a wise man.

Haha.

Streak has taken up the head coach role at Zimbabwe. He wanted an extension before he joined IPL, he changed his mind post IPL although citing personal reasons.

BCB was foolish to wait till his contract expiry. Should have extended long before he went to IPL-when he clearly expressed his desire to stay on.

I dont know what BCB was thinking. Ambrose, Ramanayake, Prasad-even all these names were linked. Walsh's probably better than these guys, but lack of coaching experience is hurting.

[imtiaz82]

Scotland made 318 against Bangladesh in Newzealand as well under HS, also I felt we were a bowler short without Rubel in starting 11.:

[patriot]

Originally Posted by imtiaz82
Scotland made 318 against Bangladesh in Newzealand as well under HS, also I felt we were a bowler short without Rubel in starting 11.:

That game was in a batting paradise in a relatively smaller ground.

Walsh is just a waste of time. The guy has no PROVEN record of coaching success.

BCB's lack of bowling coach options led to the appointment of Walsh. Heck, even shane jusrguehnsehens (lol) was a better bowling coach.

[Tigers_eye]

HHS.
HHS.

Typical. Hatu-taan khaowa suta.

[Dilscoop]

Right after his first press conference I said he'd be a generic bowling coach. He came and said, "I'll find tall bowlers" and tall "bowlers" he found, he did. Stuck Robi, Jobbbi in the team. He said he will "fix" BD bowling attack. What was there to fix? Did he bother to do any research on our current attack before taking the job? No, he's a laid back coach. We need a spoon-feeder coach for our bowlers. I was worried he'd tinker with Fizz and he's has done it. I'd love to find out more about why.

This thread is looks like a reactionary thread to 350 from last game. It's been in the process for past 6 months. I wouldn't blame Walsh for not improving our bowling, rather dismantling a good attack, or for not paying attention to what was working, trying to fix something that was perfectly fine. Otherwise, OP sounds whiny and you will get typical, "nachte na janle..." comments from people chooses not to see what's up.

Well, we can't dance all that well, that's why we need some who can build a better uthan that suits us. And that was Streak.

[iDumb]

walsh sucks... I moement i read he was given a 3 year contract, I didn't like it... and I wrote a post to that effect right away...

A foreign coach who signed up for BD at a time when the whole country was deemed a "security risk", you kinda have to think that no one else is approaching this guy - then why give him 3 years.

anyways whatever -- hopefully our bowling unit can be feared again.. we were beginnig to build a deadly attack and started to actually look better than our neighbhors but all started to fade away it seems...

[Dilscoop]

Originally Posted by Moh899
The biggest reward Heath taught us was to restrict Indias too notch batting line up to only 143 in the T20 World Cup. So imagine what kind of thinking and planning he did behind the scenes to tackle that batting line in one of the flattest wickets in india.

Check Kohli's average before vs during Streak.

He'd draw up plans for every opposition batsmen, and have specific strategies for all of our bowlers. He made guys like Al-Amin a star bowler.

[Dilscoop]

Originally Posted by jeesh
Haha.

Streak has taken up the head coach role at Zimbabwe. He wanted an extension before he joined IPL, he changed his mind post IPL although citing personal reasons.

BCB was foolish to wait till his contract expiry. Should have extended long before he went to IPL-when he clearly expressed his desire to stay on.

I dont know what BCB was thinking. Ambrose, Ramanayake, Prasad-even all these names were linked. Walsh's probably better than these guys, but lack of coaching experience is hurting.

Streak should've been signed for a longer term before he left for IPL. Typical Banlgadeshi dhela-giri led to this.

I also fear that it will happen with Hathuri. I'm glad that his old contract expired before Bangladesh hit this new stride for other teams to take notice and snatch him. SL, Aus, Pak would've been very keen! He was signed AFTER it expired/as it was expiring this time. Next time BCB won't be so lucky if they wait utill the last week of his contract, now that they know how he transformed this team. SL will unload their bank for him.

I've said this too freaking many times. But I feel like in the end we will lose Hathuri due to negligence.

[Dilscoop]

Anyone know how long till Streak becomes available again? I'd pay Zim cricket to fire Streak. And then pick him up!

[Nadim]

Difference between HS and CW is that HS used to talk to the bowlers at fine leg during the game. Whereas, CW, doesn't leave the comfy dressing room

[Nocturnal]

The following is from today's prothom-alo ... Tareq Mahmud the sports reporter covering NZ series from the venues ...

Do not take it seriously, PA normally starts spreading rumors in most cases ...

[পেস বোলিং কোচ কোর্টনি ওয়ালশ মাশরাফি-তাসকিনদের দায়িত্ব নিয়েই তুলে ধরেছিলেন সমস্যাটা। চোখের সামনে ছাত্রদের এভাবে মার খেতে দেখে নিশ্চয়ই ভালো লাগেনি তাঁর। হোটেলে ফেরার পর রাশভারী এই ক্যারিবিয়ানকে হয়তো সে কারণেই আরও গম্ভীর লাগল। জ্যামাইকার কিংস্টন থেকে যুক্তরাষ্ট্র, অস্ট্রেলিয়া, সংযুক্ত আরব আমিরাত ও নিউজিল্যান্ডের ছয়টি বিমানবন্দর ঘুরিয়ে ওয়ালশকে ক্রাইস্টচার্চে আনতে এবং আবার একই পথে ফেরত পাঠাতে নাকি খরচ পড়ছে প্রায় ২৯ লাখ টাকা! টাকাটা বিসিবির হলেও এর বিনিময়ে নিশ্চয়ই এমন বোলিং দেখতে আসেননি ওয়ালশ। এত টাকা নাসাকে দিলে পৃথিবীর কাছের কোনো গ্রহে ঘুরে আসা যেত কি না, তা নিয়ে ক্রাইস্টচার্চে এখন রীতিমতো গবেষণা চলছে। ]

http://m.prothom-alo.com/sports/arti...��াদেশ

Eng version:
Walsh looked more grumpier after 1st ODI overall poor bowling performance. He was in Jamaica before the NZ series and to fly him in Christchurch BCB spend $36K (return flight) ... Kingston - USA - Dubai - Australia - Christchurch ... Total 6 airports he was traveling through!

[jeesh]

Originally Posted by Dilscoop
Anyone know how long till Streak becomes available again? I'd pay Zim cricket to fire Streak. And then pick him up!

Usually Zim Cric dont wait too long before firing coaches. So you never know.

[Tigers_eye]

At this level, team management device plans/strategies for opposing teams weaknesses and strength way before the match. They practice at the nets of those plans. In the game, Captain sets the field. Bowlers bowl according to the field settings. Death over bowling yorkers are taught in highschool.

Yes, it is Walsh's fault #facepalm. Hai rey bangali. Kon shomoi ki ball kortey hobay, if that needs to be informed to TASKIN and co. then I am sorry, your expectation of this team too much to say the least.

Cricket is played between the ears. batsman-bowler game is a cat and mouse game. The cat got the better of the mouse because the mouse wasn't thinking at all.

[Dilscoop]

^ You're wrong. On the count that same bunch of players performed very well under a different coach but can't do it now all of a sudden. Great plans were set up and then executed by the same players on the field, under the last coach. Attack has been changed also. Hence Walsh IS the problem. But it's not his fault; fault is on BCB for not hiring the right coach.

If Hathuri leaves tomorrow and the team forgets how to win next week, you won't blame the new coach? Yeah think again buddy.