Against England

Pundit · #1 September 15, 2002, 07:46 PM

What would be a good performance against England minus our best bowlers-

200-225 score, on these batting pitch ??
England taking 35+ overs, 4 wickets ??

England 275 - 300 ??
Bangladesh 200 all out ??

Your expert commennts brother Tehsin and group.

fwullah · #2 September 16, 2002, 12:23 AM

Bowlers will do much better than what you say and batsman will fail miserably.

fwullah · #3 September 16, 2002, 08:07 AM

Bangladesh is defeated to England by a margin of 79 runs.

Not too big a margin, eh?

fwullah · #4 September 16, 2002, 09:18 AM

The Scorecard of Bangladesh vs England practice match shows that Talha Jubair has bowled well. I am impressed.

But the main problem for this coming two ODIs is Sujon's bowling. He is one of the five main bowlers, yet he is giving away a lot of runs. On the other hand, he has been in a much better form with the bat.

He scored handsomely in the two practice matches compared to the specialist batsman.

I guess the only thing that can hamper with this practice match is that Nasser Hussain did not bat for England - only Marcus Trescothick and Nick Knight were the two established batsman. And in the ODIs, all the established batsman are going to bat.

And also the worry with the bowling is that Ronnie Irani - being not such a good batsman (I am talking about class - test class) has scored a hundred against Bangladesh.

Which means that our bowlers will struggle against Adam Gilchrist and Nathan Ashtle.

fwullah · #5 September 16, 2002, 09:26 AM

Also Alec Stewart didn't play.

fwullah · #6 September 16, 2002, 09:37 AM

Hundred for Irani as England beat Bangladesh in ICC warm-up match
Ralph Dellor - 16 September 2002

In a warm-up game for their forthcoming ICC Champions Trophy campaign, England beat Bangladesh by 77 runs in Colombo with significant contributions from their all-rounders. Ronnie Irani scored exactly 100 and Ian Blackwell 58 as the pair shared a fourth wicket partnership worth 115.

England reached 265 for seven in their innings, despite losing openers Marcus Trescothick and Nick Knight had gone cheaply. Trescothick was captaining the side while Nasser Hussain rested, and with Alec Stewart suffering from a stomach bug, Owais Shah filled in behind the stumps. Shah made 45 before being run out.

Neither Irani nor Blackwell played a chanceless innings, but they would have been pleased to get scores under their belts at this stage in proceedings. Irani is very much a confidence player, while Blackwell is venturing into the unknown in this company and will have benefited enormously from the experience.

There was little chance that Bangladesh would be able to reach such a total and what chance they did have was snuffed out by Dominic Cork who took two for ten in a six over spell and England could contemplate their first match in the competition on Wednesday against Zimbabwe. This match against Bangladesh did not count as an official one-day international.

� CricInfo

Source: Report from England Cricinfo site.

Pundit · #7 September 16, 2002, 12:07 PM

I am not really sure what to make of this result.

Is Ashraful trying to say that he is only a test batsman ? Or is he just being sacrificed at one down so that Bashar gets the slower balls ?

fwullah · #8 September 17, 2002, 07:47 AM

To me Ashraful is the best one day batsman in the making.

Look at his strike rate and his batting average and look at other batsman's strike rate and batting average.

It is going to have to be the strike rate that will have to rule the future of Bangladesh batsman.

Otherwise, Bangladesh will lose and continue to lose to all other test playing teams forver.

The other day I was comparing Ashraful with a young Minhazul Abedin (for my personal satisfaction) and there isn't much of a difference.

You know why? Nannu scored runs better than Ashraful alright (in his early twenties - in the Asia cup games), but I think it was runs in those days that mattered the most. Now a days, or in the near future, its going to be strike rate along with the runs scored that will matter.

**Mahmood** · #9 September 18, 2002, 09:38 AM

What good is strike rate if the average is 4 runs per innings?

I dont see how strike rate can ever be more importent than average.

Any player can play 1/2 good innings, and then get out cheaply by hitting blindly. That will give them a higher strike rate but not so good average.

Average has always been and will always be the main factor to call a good batsman.

Pundit · #10 September 18, 2002, 10:57 AM

I very strongly agree with Raj.

Especially now when we are playing catch-up with the prime intention to maintain respectebility even in defeat, a longer but slower innings is the best bet.

Runs, runs and runs, thats all we need.