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March 3, 2022, 03:48 PM
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SA Tour, March-April 2022
Schedule:
1st ODI: Mar 18, Centurion
2nd ODI: Mar 20, Johannesburg
3rd ODI: Mar 23, Centurion
1st Test: Mar 30 - Apr 03, Durban
2nd Test: Apr 07 - 11, Port Elizabeth
BD ODI Squad:
Tamim Iqbal (capt), Litton Das, Najmul Hossain Shanto, Shakib Al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim, Mahmudullah, Afif Hossain, Mehidy Hassan Miraz, Mustafizur Rahman, Taskin Ahmed, Shoriful Islam, Ebadot Hossain, Nasum Ahmed, Yasir Ali, Mahmudul Hasan Joy, Khaled Ahmed
Out nobody, in Khaled Ahmed
BD Test Squad:
Mominul Haque (capt), Tamim Iqbal, Mahmudul Hasan Joy, Najmul Hossain Shanto, Mushfiqur Rahim, Shakib Al Hasan, Litton Das (wk), Yasir Ali, Taijul Islam, Mehidy Hasan Miraz, Taskin Ahmed, Abu Jayed, Ebadot Hossain, Shoriful Islam, Shohidul Islam, Khaled Ahmed, Shadman Islam, Nurul Hasan
Out Fazle Mahmud, Mohammad Naim
In Tamim Iqbal, Shakib Al Hasan
SA ODI Squad:
Temba Bavuma (capt), Keshav Maharaj (vice-capt), Quinton de Kock (wk), Zubayr Hamza, Marco Jansen, Janneman Malan, Aiden Markram, David Miller, Lungi Ngidi, Wayne Parnell, Andile Phehlukwayo, Dwaine Pretorius, Kagiso Rabada, Tabraiz Shamsi, Rassie van der Dussen, Kyle Verreynne
SA Test Squad:
Dean Elgar (capt), Temba Bavuma (vice-capt), Daryn Dupavillon, Sarel Erwee, Simon Harmer, Keshav Maharaj, Wiaan Mulder, Duanne Olivier, Keegan Petersen, Ryan Rickelton, Lutho Sipamla, Glenton Stuurman, Kyle Verreynne (wk), Lizaad Williams, Khaya Zondo
Happy with Khaled's inclusion in the ODI team. He showed good discipline and variety during BPL. Khaled and Shohidul in the Test team - not sure about that. Seems to be stop gap options in absence of better red ball pacers.
Hope Nurul will be given the gloves during Tests, freeing Liton to focus more on his batting and to be promoted in the line up.
Last edited by Eshen; March 18, 2022 at 04:23 PM..
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March 4, 2022, 10:27 AM
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No Munim Shahriar...
Bangladeshi selectors are terrible at their job. Guys like Nannu were decent batsman in their day, hard to understand that they cannot identify a good batsman when they see one.
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March 4, 2022, 10:42 AM
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^^ Munim doesn't have much of a list-A experience. IMO, it's not a bad decision to leave him behind and observe him in DPL. They already got Joy in the ODI squad as a backup opener, waiting for his ODI debut.
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March 4, 2022, 10:50 AM
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Legendary SA pacer Allan Donald will join the Tiger camp from this series as the pace bowling coach. BCB contracted him till next T20I WC.
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March 4, 2022, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eshen
^^ Munim doesn't have much of a list-A experience. IMO, it's not a bad decision to leave him behind and observe him in DPL. They already got Joy in the ODI squad as a backup opener, waiting for his ODI debut.
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I know Joy scored 70 + runs against Newzealand, but it was one of the streakiest innings ever. He never looked comfortable. He is good at playing shots square of the wicket but not much else. He wasnt even the best batsman at U19 level. I really dont understand selection like Joy, Sadman and Saif Hasan.
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March 4, 2022, 11:04 AM
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^^ Maybe you're right. But Joy is pretty hard working from what I hear. He worked hard with Salahuddin during BPL to increase his range of shots. Since selectors included him in the ODI squad from the last series, it's just fair that he should be given the opportunity to work with Siddons-Domingo for the time being, and let them make a fair assessment of him before making a decision about him one way or the other.
Munim is still an unknown quantity. As per Sujon, who has been working with him for last couple of years, Munim needs to improve his fielding (he did drop a catch in the last match) and his endurance (he collapsed after a T20 match last year, albeit he batted the full 20 overs).
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March 4, 2022, 01:00 PM
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^^ Maybe you're right. But Joy is pretty hard working from what I hear. He worked hard with Salahuddin during BPL to increase his range of shots. Since selectors included him in the ODI squad from the last series, it's just fair that he should be given the opportunity to work with Siddons-Domingo for the time being, and let them make a fair assessment of him before making a decision about him one way or the other.
Munim is still an unknown quantity. As per Sujon, who has been working with him for last couple of years, Munim needs to improve his fielding (he did drop a catch in the last match) and his endurance (he collapsed after a T20 match last year, albeit he batted the full 20 overs).
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If he is unfit than I have no complains. I didn't know that tbh. Hope he improves his fitness because he has the potential to be a great batsman. Not everyone has this kind of talent.
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March 5, 2022, 04:38 PM
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The two T20Is Munim played, he proved the selectors are right not to rush with him. Hope he will do well in DPL and understand his own game better.
Today Papon accused players had poor body language during the game. Perhaps they would not be so down if he stops talking trash about them in the media. The media stunt he pulled to force Shakib to play Tests in SA, instead of talking to Shakib directly on the issue, was particularly disgusting. I will not be surprised if Shakib remains bitter during SA tour and does not give his best.
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March 13, 2022, 07:41 PM
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Lets look at our ODI batting stats at SENA countries for last five year-
We have not toured Australia in the period, so that's out. Only matches we played in England during the period are WC matches, which I am not counting as ICC make super flat pitches for their events. So, matches we have to consider are 2017 SA tour, 2019 and 2021 NZ tours:
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s;type=batting
Tamim got average of 17.85 in 7 of those ODIs. He has always been suspect in swinging condition. Given how he fared against Farooqi at home in the last series, I am not expecting much from him this series.
Liton has an abysmal average of 9.33 in 9 of those ODIs. Hope to see improvement from him this time.
Relatively speaking, Riyad's average 27.25 looks decent. But given how age is catching up with him, this series probably will make the call to drop him for good stronger.
We got five batters who averaged 30+ in those matches - Mushfiq (37.75), Sabbir (38.83), Mithun (51.75), Imrul (33.33), and Shakib (32.33). Sabbir, unfortunately, is a sad story, he needs to get his acts together in domestics before being considered for national team again. But was it wise to leave out Imrul and Mithun?
Tamim, if media be trusted, wanted Imrul in place of unproven Yasir Ali. I can understand selectors reluctance to linger with Imrul, when you have more exciting and younger top order options like Joy and Shanto to invest on. However, I still find Mithun's exclusion, given he was our highest scorer in last two ODI series in NZ, rather shocking.
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March 18, 2022, 02:16 PM
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Well done team. Great performance. Same SA team whitewashed India a while ago
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March 18, 2022, 03:34 PM
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Well done.
But, bowling got indicplined towards the end and we let tail-enders smack us around! 34 runs were made by the last batsmen!
And, Riyad has forgotten how to bowl. Most likely, he does not practise bowling anymore!
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March 18, 2022, 04:46 PM
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Congrats Bangladesh for first ever win in South Africa
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March 19, 2022, 09:13 AM
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Well done team on the first victory against SA in SA. Also congrats to Shakib on his 50th fifty Hoping that there will be a 10th odi century in the not too distant future
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March 19, 2022, 11:31 AM
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The match got really scary at one point when Miraz was leaking runs and there was no sixth bowler to cover his overs (Tamim tried Riyad, but he was leaking runs as well). Miraz came back superbly in his third spell (gave 38 runs in his first 4 overs, but only 12 runs in next four while took 4 wickets) and won us the match. This sort of comeback not always going to happen, we got to have another allrounder, namely a pace allrounder in the lineup. This also means we can't afford to carry a passenger in Riyad in the team anymore.
Targeting ODI WC next year, the team management should help Afif, Miraz, and Saifuddin to settle in #6, #7, and #8 positions respectively in the lineup.
On the positive side, Yasir put doubts, whether he can adapt to international cricket, to a rest in the match. So now we have a well settled 1-5, barring any injury issue. With two talented batters like Joy and Shanto already on the bench, competition will be high for any outsider to be even in consideration for the ODI squad in next one year or so.
Taskin-Shoriful-Fizz showed why they should be considered one of the best pace Trio in ODI atm. That said, the team management still need to find 4th and 5th backup pacers who can rotate with with them during a long tournament (hope Hasan Mahmud will return soon. The other likely candidate, imo, is Mrittunjoy).
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March 19, 2022, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
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I know Joy scored 70 + runs against Newzealand, but it was one of the streakiest innings ever. He never looked comfortable. He is good at playing shots square of the wicket but not much else. He wasnt even the best batsman at U19 level. I really dont understand selection like Joy, Sadman and Saif Hasan.
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I watched the innings fairly closely. It was a solid knock. Full credit to Joy as he isn't an opener by trade but will have to be to crack into this side - also we need openers. Being right handed also helps when the rest of the top 4 (TIK, Momin, Shanto) are all lefties.
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March 20, 2022, 07:34 AM
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And, the ways the BOYS were boasting to media that they are looking forward to a 2nd win, and then the way they played in today's match... they will forever remain a minnow team. Mentality needs to change.
The top order were overconfident going into this match and it showed their on-field performance. Same thing happened in AFG tour recently. Just could not keep professional till the last match.
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March 20, 2022, 11:08 AM
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Unfamiliar pitch, yet Tamim chose to bat first! Neil Mackenzie also said after the match that Bangladesh should have chosen to field first. Looks like our team lack the confidence that they can chase targets overseas. This is a mental block they must overcome.
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March 22, 2022, 08:11 PM
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March 23, 2022, 07:57 AM
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Taskin is a prime example of how a crappy bowler can start to change his fortune with good eating habits and proper workout plans. Very impressed with him so far
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March 23, 2022, 09:06 AM
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What an innings! Taskin take a bow...
Eagerly waiting for second innings
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March 23, 2022, 10:46 AM
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Things going smoothly as butter.
I wonder if Liton will stop scoring after he reaches 50 and then give strike constantly to Tamim so that he can score a century. There are 30 overs left and that is the way ...
NVM. Liton gone! Idiot!
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March 23, 2022, 11:19 AM
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And, Shakib didn't think about this either.
Everyone's selfish jeez!
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March 23, 2022, 01:08 PM
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Quote:
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Taskin is a prime example of how a crappy bowler can start to change his fortune with good eating habits and proper workout plans. Very impressed with him so far
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Taskin, was a very talented young player, who hit a road block, he was not a crappy bowler, he became worse, but let's not forget the player before the dip
Also, his issues were not simply diet related, he said himself, it's not until fixed his fitness issues and diet issues, he realised his issues were related to his mental health.
Point being taskin didn't simply improve because of his diet, he changed a lot of things to get this improvement.
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March 23, 2022, 01:56 PM
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What a series win!
It's surprising though how Fizz didn't get a single wicket this series!
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March 23, 2022, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
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What a series win!
It's surprising though how Fizz didn't get a single wicket this series!
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It's not surprising at all. He is a crappy bowler without his cutters in the subcontinental pitches. Because he doesn't know how to swing or seam the ball. Doesn't even use the yorkers or bouncers he used to utilize earlier in his career.
Seemed like he has become lazy and stopped trying to improve. He is happy being overdependent on his cutters and playing in the IPL. Doesn't even want to play tests.
The team management should only play him in ODIs held in the subcontinent with slow and low tracks where
His cutters will grip. Or just play him in the T20s.
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