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Old December 22, 2019, 12:05 AM
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Trump became the 3rd dude to get impeached.

People will often say how crime (esp. hate crimes) increased during his era. I am not so sure if that is the case. Had Hillary came these idiot, zealot Dems would NEVER scrutinize her the way they did Trump dirty and thus won't obsessively micro-find every single thing wrong with the world.

You can't eradicate evil. Only suppress it. And suppression is precisely what erupts and bubbles up as 9/11 or Florida mass shooting.

In certain ways, it IS good that Trump is our Herr Leader and Father. Online is a therapy for all these bigoted, red neck Bible thumpers. If you suppress, and marginalize their voice, they don't suddenly 'go away'. WTF you gon do? Use fear based repercussion method to silence hate and evil and racism?

Pfft. Yeah we all know how that worked.

Let the fiddler fiddle... be it if it means 'good' for the country.
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Old December 22, 2019, 10:26 AM
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Old May 5, 2020, 08:48 AM
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Watch the video in entirety. Trump said NOTHING in the line of injecting disinfectant in the body.



They took some sound bytes and COMPLETELY twisted it and made a mountain out of molehill and ran with it. Only people you will be making rich are these sleazeballs in the media.

These people are not interested in journalism nor truth. These are some CORRUPT and CRIMINAL individuals working in unison.

These people will GASLIGHT you and stand in front of you and in plain face say "Sun revolves around earth" and people would take mainstream media's words as gospel and believe like sheep.

I made a video about flat earth in jest. Makes you wonder who the REAL flat earthers are.

Facebook should be BANNING mainstream media for DELIBERATE falsifying of information, but those criminals in Facebook are in the same bed as these thugs.

UNBELIEVABLE? Indeed.
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Old May 6, 2020, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeeshan
Watch the video in entirety. Trump said NOTHING in the line of injecting disinfectant in the body.



They took some sound bytes and COMPLETELY twisted it and made a mountain out of molehill and ran with it. Only people you will be making rich are these sleazeballs in the media.

These people are not interested in journalism nor truth. These are some CORRUPT and CRIMINAL individuals working in unison.

These people will GASLIGHT you and stand in front of you and in plain face say "Sun revolves around earth" and people would take mainstream media's words as gospel and believe like sheep.

I made a video about flat earth in jest. Makes you wonder who the REAL flat earthers are.

Facebook should be BANNING mainstream media for DELIBERATE falsifying of information, but those criminals in Facebook are in the same bed as these thugs.

UNBELIEVABLE? Indeed.
Correct.

That Trump is bombastic or that he says somewhat dumb things is a known phenomenon.

Day 1. The power of president is TOTAL. Result: Media meltdown.
Day 2. Inject disinfectant. Result: Media meltdown.
Day 3. I am treated worse than Lincoln. Result: Media meltdown.

There has been constant media meltdown almost everyday around Trump for the last 4 years. I no longer believe that Trump plays the media. He is who he is. Media squeeze out these meltdowns. It is very depressing now

Yes, the President of the United States is a very important person who should be covered, but that does not warrant a meltdown everyday or 24/7 news coverage centering around him. COVID 19 is not the first disaster America is facing. They had 9/11, Katrina and many others, and I am sure the president was not the center of focus 24/7 during those crisis times.

Anyone who is not a partisan hack will agree with me that in the COVID 19 pressers, Trump is not given the respect a president deserves when journalists ask him questions. If Trump is bad faith actor, the journalists are worse. They are not there to really know about what government is doing. They are there to ask a gotcha question to Trump so that they may extract a soundbite that will go viral. GROSS!

Recently Don Lemon roasted (?) Trump in a monologue. He was trying to understand why Trump hates Obama. He was trying to figure out if it was due to Obama's good looks or education or other personal accomplishments. It was purely vapid and vacuous. Look, Lemon couldn't prove Obama's superiority using his legislative achievement. Because Obama has none. He was a SHITTY president. And that is why Trump won. Trump happened because of Obama.

2016 was a year when capitalism and the neoliberal order was exposed like never before. Bernie exposed the ills of America's political establishment and political institutions, but Trump had the genius and strategy to channel anti establishment anger to take over his party and capture the nomination and eventually become the president. It is no small achievement.

Because of Trump's mean tweet, and often uncontrollable persona, Trump was never accepted by the financial elites, the military industrial complex, the deep state, and the media. Because he created a problem of masking the neo-liberal order. That is why despite governing like a run of the mills Republican President, Trump is still hated. But Trump relishes it. Every media meltdown only reinforces his outsider persona. Because of apparent media hypocrisy, his scream of fake news lands. American people feel helpless against the establishment. That is why when Trump presents himself as a victim against media and the establishment, people subconsciously feel sorry for him and thinks him as one of their own. As a result, Trump will again get to run as an outsider despite being the president(!), against Biden, who is the quintessential neoliberal establishment figure, who is hated universally.

And 2020 has further exposed the depth of hypocrisy of the democrats and the media.

Me Too? Overlook when Biden rapes.
Trump is a threat to democracy? Cuomo cancels NY presidential primary and removes Bernie from ballot.

The democratic party will die. Bernie gave them a chance to survive, but Obama and the elites rejected it. For four years, media and the DNC tried to brainwash people propagating that America's problems started with Trump in 2016 and they will magically go away in 2020 if Trump is removed. They cheated and installed Biden, and they are now praying hard that they will capture the WH riding on anti-Trump votes in 2020.

Will it work on 2020? Depends on where COVID 19 leads US. The election will be a referendum on Trump's handling of this pandemic. So far he did not do a good job. It was his chance to become a transformative president. In a situation like this, what the president needs to do is bring all the elites in a room and have an honest meeting:

Look guys, we have given you everything you have wanted. We have given you trillions of dollars in tax cuts and in bailouts. However, as FDR said, if you want to keep your riches, you have to give people a little bit so that social order does not break down.

I am the president and during this pandemic, I need to move the nation from point A to point B with iron hand: pass Medicare for all, cancel all student debts, and have UBI for 12 months.

And if you do it, Republicans shall rule American politics for decades.

Is Trump smart enough to do it? The answer is NO. He stumbled his way to the presidency. And he is surrounded with establishment advisors whose only solution to the pandemic is more bailout for corporations.

Because of Trump's lack of decisiveness during this pandemic, he may very well lose his reelection to living corpse Biden. I still hope Trump wins, because (1) objectively Trump is better than Biden (2) a second loss to Trump is necessary for the destruction of fascist DNC.
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Nothing further. Defense rests your honor.
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Meaning of this Trump face: I am DUMB but the establishment is DUMBER, that is why I owned them and became President.

Does Donald Trump fall in the category of all time great?

I think we have to look into three different areas:

A. Him winning the presidency
B. His governing/legislative achievement
C. His contribution to the Republican party

A. Him winning the presidency
It can be genuinely argued that Trump deserves to be called GOAT because of him winning the presidency alone. Yes, the environment was ripe for an outsider anti-establishment candidate, and Trump also bumped into the right strategy, but still, it will be an over simplification if his achievement is dismissed simply as an accident of history, or the inevitable backlash of history, as Obama does it, because the first black president ascended to power when America was not 100% ready for its first black POTUS. Institutional racism exists and racism was probably a factor to Trump’s victory, but racism is NOT the explanation of Trump phenomenon, because the same country had elected Obama TWICE, not once. To be fair, only the smug liberal elites prefer this over simplified explanation of Trump phenomenon because they don’t want to look into the mirror and take any responsibility for the failure of their neoliberal policies.

Politics usually runs like a mafia gang, and unless you are a proven member of the gang, it is very difficult to break into politics and run, let alone win. You need the institutional support simply to run, which Trump did not have like Bush and Rubio had for example at the initial stage of primary. Aside from the lack of institutional support, the whole establishment was against him. Hillary had the support of media establishment, the deep state, Wall Street, and the military industrial complex. The Empire was never going to allow a mild social democrat like Bernie to be its manager, but the Empire also did not want an unpredictable and uncontrollable uncouth character like Trump, who threatened to unmask its true nature. Trump defied this challenge by being an unconventional candidate: a stand-up comedian who did not follow usual consultant driven kabuki theatre script. He sprinkled racism on his populism – and the base resonated. He developed a cultish following and he used it to his advantage. Unlike Bernie, Trump did not capitulate – he did not fall for the phony UNITY and CIVILITY rules. He threatened to withhold his endorsement for the eventual Republican nominee if he was treated unfairly or outright cheated. This was the first correct move. Second, he fought back against the media by calling them who they are: FAKE NEWS. Current US media do not do news but do propaganda infotainment, and people know it.

Overall, Trump ran a brilliant campaign and triumphed over all the institutional barriers to win the White House as an outsider. If you still believe that it was all luck (and there is no such thing as luck because everything is preordained ), answer me: Have you ever run for a college student organization or any office for that matter? How many votes did you get? Winning votes from people is a very tough task. And here a political neophyte won millions of votes and won the most powerful office on earth without any prior experience of running for office. Therefore, this achievement certainly deserves to be considered for the title of GOAT.

B. His governing/legislative achievement
Let’s make a list of what Trump claims to be his accomplishments:

Cancelled TPP
Tax cut
Renegotiated NAFTA
Deregulation
Greatest EVER economy (before COVID hacked it)
Appointment of record number of judges
Moving Israeli embassy to Jerusalem
First Step Act
Peace talk with Kim Jong Un
Peace treaties between Israel, Bahrain, and UAE
Peace talks with Taliban
Did not start a new war but continued the drone program
Millions and millions and millions of jobs

As a nominally populist president, Trump does not have a signature policy achievement that will go down with his name. His best achievements in my book are: NO TPP, no new war, and the First Step Act. Therefore, his governing/legislative success is pretty bleak. Politics is ‘one thing at a time’ business. You can focus on multiple issues but you must remain focused on one or two signature issues (another reason why Bernie lost in 2020 – he probably should have had a three point plan and should have hammered it instead of having policy solutions for everything, which were good, but not winning politics). When you think of great presidents, one or two signature policies come to mind:

FDR – new deal, social security
LBJ – great society, civil rights/voting rights act
Lincoln – ending slavery, win civil war
Eisenhower – interstate highways

If a positive signature policy is not associated with your name, you are probably not a great president. This is a reason why Obama is NOT a great president. Milquetoast technocratic corporatist solution like Obamacare or tax cut do not make you a great president.

As a nominally populist president, Trump at least needed to do an infrastructure bill. American infrastructure is in serious bad shape – I do not see any image of American roads and highways except they look white with full of cracks. He should have forced Congress for an infrastructure bill, even if such a bill would be designed to primarily give the responsibility of rebuilding to corporations. Trump had the leverage but he missed his opportunity.

COVID gave Trump another opportunity but he botched his response here too. All Trump needed was decisiveness instead of being all over the place. He should have presented two clear choices before America and Congress:

1. Wear mask, maintain social distancing, keep everything open and follow the Swedish model
2. Do selective lockdown, perform testing and tracing, and give UBI for the duration of pandemic

Lockdown was not an option because morally you cannot take away peoples’ livelihood unless you compensate them. Had Trump presented the two choices above, whatever happened, the blame would be on Congress.

Instead he foolishly oscillated between hoax and Kung flu, and started an unnecessary culture war about mask to appear alpha, and the Democrats ran away with the COVID narrative. Now he will probably lose the reelection because of his poor handling and indecisiveness.

His contribution to the Republican Party
Many observers say Trump has destroyed the Republican Party. I disagree. He knowingly or unknowingly gave a dying party a much needed shake.

Romney-McCain type neo-conservative tax cut/deregulation market fundamental fiscal hawks with zero charisma will have hard time beating identity thumping ‘fake’ woke democrats because of shift in demographics. Democrats are now the party of upper middle class (401k). They abandoned the poor and the working class in 1992, and the project is now complete. Whether they win or lose in 2020, their strategy is to become a corporatist party, with an electorate primarily of upper middle class liberals -the quintessential white moderates (as described by MLK) who drink the koolaid of identity politics 24/7 to appear not racist at a surface level. Therefore, Republicans had to do something differently to win. Trump gave them the potent formula:

- Appear anti-war: general public never liked war since Vietnam
- Economic protectionism: some form of economic message/solution is required to get the disaffected lower and lower middle class
- Immigration hardline: Since the party is not willing to honestly solve the economic problem, you must demonize the other. Be against immigrants while simultaneously dog whistle about white supremacy, God, gun, abortion, and family values.

Trump also shrewdly pandered to the blacks and Hispanics from the first day of his presidency because he knew he needed them to expand his base. If Republicans cannot expand the electorate, they certainly have a bleak future in politics, and almost no future in presidential politics. The electoral map gives a GIANT advantage to Democrats from the get go.

Verdict
In conclusion, my verdict is TRUMP is not a GOAT judging his legislative and governing record. But his rise to presidency rewrote the conventional rules of politics and campaigning, and also initiated party realignment ideologically. So Trump can certainly be called a GOAT because of Trump phenomenon.

Whether you accept him as a GOAT or not, Trump lived his whole life under a glass ceiling without giving a s**t, and for a public persona of such impunity, he probably deserved the ultimate trophy of public life: the Presidency of the United States and the megaphone that comes with it. And he achieved it.
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