It’s not Walsh and Rhodes silly, it’s Mortaza and selectors!!

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by iDumb
How did this guy become a moderator again. So I am supposed to read your mind. You were referring to your sister in laws parents...was this a family poll btw?

Jokers.

I am not saying you could understand. That was my mistake and I could not convey proper language through my English, I am laughing at me for that not you as you thought I was married.

Now your accusetion of my make belief wife love mash and as a reason I love mast looks kinda week doesn't it? Wait don't answer that because you will come back with another 5 year old logic and don't want to waste my time reading that.

If you read my posts recently in this forum you would see I have bashed mash because of his moves in the WC and his political treatment of BD team. He lost a fan in me.

But that does not mean I am going to support a lie. I am politely asking you if you ever got a chance to be in norail do some research.

[iDumb]

Originally Posted by Night_wolf

Now your accusetion of my make belief wife love mash and as a reason I love mast looks kinda week doesn't it?

are you really that dumb? those were twisted jokes to make you show how ridiculous you sound. The point is unless there is a proper fair election held, no amount of research, polls, family reuninon, opinion matter. His victory will always be with * and unearned.
Do you get that? Just like his captaincy in this world cup. Unearned.

[MarufH]

Waa... this thread is hot! Unusually hot for BC. I will keep my opinion to myself and grab some popcorn.

[aklemalp]

Calm down guys. World Cup is over...

[Nafi]

Originally Posted by iDumb
are you really that dumb? those were twisted jokes to make you show how ridiculous you sound. The point is unless there is a proper fair election held, no amount of research, polls, family reuninon, opinion matter. His victory will always be with * and unearned.
Do you get that? Just like his captaincy in this world cup. Unearned.

Preach man, Preach. Exactly the cold hard truth.

Its a bitter pill to swallow.

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by iDumb
are you really that dumb? those were twisted jokes to make you show how ridiculous you sound. The point is unless there is a proper fair election held, no amount of research, polls, family reuninon, opinion matter. His victory will always be with * and unearned.
Do you get that? Just like his captaincy in this world cup. Unearned.

Who said it was a fair election? I said it was rigged 100 percent. I said if it was fair the pre world cup mash would have won it still. May be not by the margin he did but would have still won it because the support I have seen of him when ever I been to norail and whatever I heard of him from my extended family. There were two factors for me to come to a conclusion?

What are your bases than? Let's hear them. My sources of my ear and eyes are baseless but let's hear your sources

Why are you bringing in cricket? That's another topic

if we are talking about cricket, his captaincy going into the WC was not unearned, he was the highest wicket taker for BD going into the cup in last 3 years and bar Fizz was on par with everyone else in terms of eco,SR,and avg. it was during the WC he made absolutely tool of himself and showed the politician within him, his captaincy during the WC was completely unearned

[Desh99]

Anyways who cares World Cup is over and I am going fishing.

[BookFinder]

Originally Posted by iDumb
Your claims are as baseless as mine. I know it's difficult to be objective when bias is so ingrained in thinking.

You simply do not know whether he would have won or not. So stop writing crap and stop posting baseless reply. I gave my opinion - I don't call them facts but you seem to be convinced. Wake up!!

Until Mortaza apologizes to the public for the shitshow the guy is a BIG ZERO. Couldn't deliver when it mattered. 2007 WC team also toppled two big teams under a different captain with much less accomplished players- and was our most successful WC. How dare this guy with many match winners in the team and the best all rounder possibly of all time at his best not deliver a better result? Why does he get so much credit??? I want to know. Because he got multiple knee operations??? He is given a spot - he is not earning it. Bangladesh is a charity organization for Mortaza.

I dont know much about BD politics, I dont care about Mashrafe as a politician.

I agree with rest of your post. Thats what I said in another thread too. We freakin defeated way stronger India team full of Shewag, Tendulkar, and that legendary RSA team, with Ashraful, Aftab, Syed
Rasel.

Our middle order batting stats was as good as England still we finished 8th.

[BookFinder]

Originally Posted by Rifat_02
The most disappointing thing is whole of Bangladesh is after Tamim who averaged 29 in this tournament but only a minority speaks out about captain Mashrafe's horrendous performance Of 350+ average after bowling 50 overs in the tournament and his refusal to step aside for the team. Some even throw dialogues such as " we have to take care of our elderly parents even when they are old and just like that Mashrafe cannot be dropped from team"

Yeah this is why we will still remain far behind rest of world not just in sports but everything else too.

On a side note, i heard football team is started to do better especially at youth level.

[SportingBD]

How quickly politics can ruin a person.

Still have immense respect for mash.

Just sad.

[Rinathq]

While Mash has completely failed as a bowler.. I am not sure why some of you keep calling Mash selfish. Enlighten me why Mash needed to play every single game in the world cup? Did he have any point to prove at this point of his career? Did he need fame? Money? Attention? He is an MP who has a higher position ready for him in one of the ministry the second he retires from international cricket. So why would he want to keep playing these games when his knees are clearly giving him a lot of pain? I am pretty sure the think tank, the management and the players wanted him to keep playing.

Mash never needed the team. The team needed mash and this tournament was a rare scenario where he failed to deliver. Doesnt make him selfish or a shrewd politician.

[Ahsan]

Fact/Process-wise I agree with orphy here.



Sentiment-wise - NW is most likely correct too.


At any rate, guys no need to bickering over this. Mash served the country well as cricketer- no disrespect there. His worldcup performance does not guarantee him in the team. Captaincy should be handed off to someone else immediately too. And make Mashrafe team manager or bowling asssitant coach/mentor. I would love to see that bhuriwala, mathamota, yawning-man during match, omnipresent in BD cricket, to be gone from the manager post, in fact I would love to see him thousands feet away from BD cricket team.

[BookFinder]

Originally Posted by Rinathq
While Mash has completely failed as a bowler.. I am not sure why some of you keep calling Mash selfish. Enlighten me why Mash needed to play every single game in the world cup? Did he have any point to prove at this point of his career? Did he need fame? Money? Attention? He is an MP who has a higher position ready for him in one of the ministry the second he retires from international cricket. So why would he want to keep playing these games when his knees are clearly giving him a lot of pain? I am pretty sure the think tank, the management and the players wanted him to keep playing.

Mash never needed the team. The team needed mash and this tournament was a rare scenario where he failed to deliver. Doesnt make him selfish or a shrewd politician.

Um hello, Mash didnt need the team to become an MP? The team needed Mash? I am pretty sure even without Mash, and head coaches we could've easily gotten 8th position.

With all these unconditional love for Mashrafe, Bangladesh clearly deserves to in 8th place.

[Rinathq]

Originally Posted by BookFinder
Um hello, Mash didnt need the team to become an MP? The team needed Mash? I am pretty sure even without Mash, and head coaches we could've easily gotten 8th position.

With all these unconditional love for Mashrafe, Bangladesh clearly deserves to in 8th place.

umm Hello to you too.. even if Mash retired 5 years ago, he wouldve won from Narail.

[patriot]

MP Shaheb was the worst bowler this world cup and an absolute disgrace for the viewers. Why would I pay to watch a half injured bowler trundling at 120KPh and fielding like it was a disabled cricket match.

Embarrassing for us as a nation that we have allowed our politics to take over cricket. It was clear MP Shaheb would not be benched in any of the games as it would reflect badly on BAL's idea to have him as an MP prior to the world cup. If you read prothoms article, published last week, BAL aka BCB is planning for him to not retire soon and arrange a match at home with a 'winnable' team like Zim or Ireland so that they can give him the perfect farewell.

I fail to understand how this dude got legendary status in BD. As a captain he has lost every knockout game and failed to win a single trophy barring the recent micky mouse series.

[patriot]

Originally Posted by Rinathq
While Mash has completely failed as a bowler.. I am not sure why some of you keep calling Mash selfish. Enlighten me why Mash needed to play every single game in the world cup?

Because his Hasina Apa wanted him to. It would have been a PR disaster for BAL had he not played all games as the question would as to why he chose political campaigning prior to the world cup over working on his game physically and mentally.

Did he have any point to prove at this point of his career? Did he need fame? Money? Attention? He is an MP who has a higher position ready for him in one of the ministry the second he retires from international cricket. So why would he want to keep playing these games when his knees are clearly giving him a lot of pain? I am pretty sure the think tank, the management and the players wanted him to keep playing.

He joined politics for fame, money and attention wanted it by hook or crook. He has no shame taking part and celebrating a rigged election. Playing in the world cup ensures his brand name remains intact and gets him a higher rating for future elections.

Mash never needed the team. The team needed mash and this tournament was a rare scenario where he failed to deliver. Doesnt make him selfish or a shrewd politician.

He got 1 wicket for 361 runs in 9 matches. Yes, the team needed him.

[Shingara]

Originally Posted by Rinathq
While Mash has completely failed as a bowler.. I am not sure why some of you keep calling Mash selfish. Enlighten me why Mash needed to play every single game in the world cup? Did he have any point to prove at this point of his career? Did he need fame? Money? Attention? He is an MP who has a higher position ready for him in one of the ministry the second he retires from international cricket. So why would he want to keep playing these games when his knees are clearly giving him a lot of pain? I am pretty sure the think tank, the management and the players wanted him to keep playing.

Mash never needed the team. The team needed mash and this tournament was a rare scenario where he failed to deliver. Doesnt make him selfish or a shrewd politician.

He kept playing to end his career on a high note by taking wickets. Well, we all know how that went.

[Krishna]

আমাদের তুলু তুলু মেডিয়া.. আজ ক্রিস রোডস সম্পরকে এক রিপোর্টে বাংলাদেশের খেলা সম্পর্কে রিপোর্টারটির মতামত দেখেন..আমরা এখনো প্রতিপক্ষের সমীহ খেলতে আদায় করতে যাই, সৌম্যর এই খেলাই অনেক 'ভালো', মোসাদ্দেকের 'উজ্জল' উপস্থিতি..। এই সব মিনো মেন্টালিটি কখন যাবে কে জানে, আলালের(সাংবাদিক) ঘরের দুলাল একেক্টা প্লেয়ার!

..যে বিশ্বকাপের ‘রিপোর্ট কার্ড’ সামনে রেখে বিসিবি এমন কঠিন সিদ্ধান্ত নিতে বেশি উৎসাহিত হলো, তাতেও বাংলাদেশ দলের পারফরম্যান্স খুব খারাপ বলার উপায় নেই। দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকা, ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ ও আফগানিস্তানকে হারিয়ে টুর্নামেন্টের মাঝামাঝি পর্যন্ত ৫ নম্বর দল ছিল বাংলাদেশ। নিউজিল্যান্ড, অস্ট্রেলিয়া, ভারতের সঙ্গে লড়াই এবং সাকিব আল হাসান ও মোস্তাফিজুর রহমানের ব্যক্তিগত পারফরম্যান্সও থাকবে অর্জনের খাতায়। প্রতিটি ম্যাচেই বাংলাদেশ প্রতিপক্ষের সমীহ পেয়েছে।..
..বিশ্বকাপে দলের তরুণ ক্রিকেটারদের ভালো খেলায়ও ছিল কোচের প্রত্যক্ষ ভূমিকা। তরুণদের স্বাধীনভাবে খেলতে বলতেন তিনি। দায়িত্ব নিতে উৎসাহ দিতেন। বিশ্বকাপে কোচের এই নীতির ইতিবাচক প্রভাব দলের মধ্যে দেখা গেছে। পাঁচ সিনিয়র ক্রিকেটারের বিকল্প তৈরি হচ্ছে না, ইংল্যান্ড বিশ্বকাপের আগেও বাংলাদেশের ক্রিকেটের প্রধান চিন্তা ছিল সেটি। মাশরাফি, সাকিব, মাহমুদউল্লাহ, মুশফিক, তামিমরা যখন থাকবেন না, কী হবে তখন? বিশ্বকাপে লিটন, মোস্তাফিজ, সৌম্য, সাইফউদ্দিন, মোসাদ্দেক, মিরাজের উজ্জ্বল উপস্থিতি সেই দুশ্চিন্তা অনেকটাই কমিয়ে দিয়েছে।..

[Nafi]

Originally Posted by Rinathq
Mash never needed the team. The team needed mash and this tournament was a rare scenario where he failed to deliver. Doesnt make him selfish or a shrewd politician.

Da hell you are talking

The team need mash for what? To give them hugs and kisses?

Mash should have stepped down, pretended to have injury.

he's a selfish ****

[2DCube]

I am related to Narail and I can say that Mashrafi is much loved in Narail. People are crazy about him and he is thought of as a gift & pride and he is involved with charitywork in his hometown as well. People rave about his humble and grounded personality. It is a no brainer that he still would have won had the election been fair. I don't understand the relation between him being extremely popular in his hometown and his bad performance in the WC! There is absolutely no correlation.

[Roey Haque]

I have all his post game pressers. They should have post pressers after every series match, not just in the WC.

I like the way he handles the media, and seems to say just the right thing. Not putting too much pressure on the team, and yet remaining confident. Which is why I think he should apologize for this 8th place performance. It is only right. I am surprised he didn't do it right after the Pakistan game. Maybe couldn't believe that he just had played his last game? If that was the reason he didn't do it, then good. It means he will announce his retirement very soon.

But if not, then I don't get it.

[Roey Haque]

On a side note, I would love it if I could churn up this type of reaction from people on someone who is TRULY selfish, Rahim.

[Anher]

As i stated before, the day he participated in rigged elections he lost all is credibility as an inspiring honest man. He was building that inspirational image for his bigger personal goal.

For those who think Bangladesh team needed him or any of the players, it is other way around. They needed Bangladesh for what they are now. Their dream was playing for Bangladesh.

It is privilege and honour to serve your country. Millions people ready to sacrifice even their life for it.


Below is an article, how even Bangladeshi people now paying the price for him.
He is no different than our traditional crook politicians. He would have been different if he joined Awami League which is just fine as personal choice but said he will only participate in a free and fair election.


A costly ‘warning'
Cancer specialist transferred to remote district for criticising Mashrafe

Full article link below:
https://www.thedailystar.net/backpag...arning-1769710

[ToBeFair]

Papon thinks Mortaza has no replacement.

https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-new...ents-bcb-chief

[revolver]

Yh Mashrafi needs a farewell ASAP we need to get this dead wood out. Maybe we should invite South Africa for a 3 match ODI series