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Old September 15, 2010, 03:29 AM
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Such standby mean nothing ... nasir hossain was there earlier.... now he's nowhere... can name a few more....
this is mere formality... nothing to get flattered..
not for hom
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I respectfully disagree Jisaan. This is s a home series, not a foreign tour which involves getting visas and plane tickets for last minute replacements (remember poor saghir hossain who never made it to england despite being called up for the injured Mushfiq?) so this is a strong indication the selectors rate him and he may even get a game.

Look at the other "standbyes" for the NZ series; Ash, Nazimuddin, Nazmul & Dolar, all have played for BD before and could conceivably play again. He may not play, but he's definitely in the thoughts of the selectors...

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Old September 15, 2010, 03:37 AM
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Tamim set foot in international cricket when he was 17+, Ashraful joined 16-17, Tendulkar at 16.
But we have seen way too many Bangladeshi[and Pakistani]players being destroyed due to the early introduction, Nafees Iqbal(19), Rajin Saleh(20), Tushar Imran(19), Talha Jubair(17) and the list literally goes on and on. If exposed at the right time, some of them would have been instrumental in the current BD team. [eg. Talha Jubair was thought to be of Mashrafe's calibre, but an injury destroyed the potentials, he is still a shadow of himself].
Exposure to international cricket is like exposure to the sun, without proper UV protection the skin[player] can burn out rather quickly.


But I still think if they have it in them, they're only gonna only get better. In the case of fast bowlers too, it's better to make an early debut because, you're not gonna get a long run with a 28+ year old guy. So the earlier the better. Well Talha got injured, his bad. That'd have happened in any phase of his career, don't you agree?

BTW most of the above mentioned players have a pretty average FC stats to back them
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Old September 15, 2010, 03:44 AM
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But I still think if they have it in them, they're only gonna only get better. In the case of fast bowlers too, it's better to make an early debut because, you're not gonna get a long run with a 28+ year old guy. So the earlier the better. Well Talha got injured, his bad. That'd have happened in any phase of his career, don't you agree?

BTW most of the above mentioned players have a pretty average FC stats to back them
I agree we have to be careful about exposing people too early, but there are players who are mature and talented enough to prosper even if exposed at an early age.

For example, Mash, Mushfiq, shakib and tamim were all brought into the side at a relatively early age and are all doing quite well...I'm sure there are others you could add to that list too...
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Old September 15, 2010, 03:52 AM
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Shuvo looks a good player.

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Old September 15, 2010, 11:19 AM
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I agree we have to be careful about exposing people too early, but there are players who are mature and talented enough to prosper even if exposed at an early age.

For example, Mash, Mushfiq, shakib and tamim were all brought into the side at a relatively early age and are all doing quite well...I'm sure there are others you could add to that list too...
I agree with you but the world cup is knocking on the door. So why experiment now? Rather than experimenting they should try to come up with the best XI now. Shuvo can always come after world cup but not now... unless he does something extraordinary in NCL
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Old September 15, 2010, 02:48 PM
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thought he had played 2 or 3 seasons in the DPL and had a good showing each season he played.....still not that much experience but more than what his record shows. if he has the potential and his game is technically sound enough then he'd be worth a try, he's 23/24 which is young but a reasonable he enough age to be introduced into international cricket. but it would have been much better trialling him earlier in some easier series rather than now, i hope that training in australia has done him a lot of good.
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Old September 15, 2010, 03:14 PM
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Welcome back Gowza.

Anyway as for Shuvagoto, I want to see him bat well in upcoming NCL 4 day games

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Old September 16, 2010, 04:31 AM
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^^^right!it's only during the longer versions of the game that a player's true dimensions are revealed.if he's consistent in NCL,i say he should be called to the side against zim.
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Old September 16, 2010, 08:11 AM
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Such standby mean nothing ... nasir hossain was there earlier.... now he's nowhere... can name a few more....
this is mere formality... nothing to get flattered..
not for hom
not for anyone
Wow. You should see a sunrise sometimes. It will definitely give you the meaning of optimism.
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Old September 17, 2010, 05:35 AM
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hom is happy with his inclusion in the national team standby
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/da...-17/news/94039
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Old September 17, 2010, 06:17 AM
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Seeing the guy for the first time. Can't wait to see what all the hype is about.
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Old September 17, 2010, 01:15 PM
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Old September 18, 2010, 09:12 AM
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he's sort of good looking.good to have good looking players in the team.atleast there will be reduced amounts of eyesore in the form of "marry me,afridi","rahul,i love u"!
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Old September 18, 2010, 09:14 AM
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From his interview, it is clearly he needs little more time. By staying as standby, he is practicing with the team.

Now, if Mushfique is out, I say bring him as specialist # 7/8
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Old September 18, 2010, 09:59 AM
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he's sort of good looking.good to have good looking players in the team.atleast there will be reduced amounts of eyesore in the form of "marry me,afridi","rahul,i love u"!
"Sort of good looking"? Dude, that guy's hot.
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Old September 19, 2010, 09:55 AM
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^^^yea he is,kind of...
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Old September 19, 2010, 12:41 PM
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he's sort of good looking.good to have good looking players in the team.atleast there will be reduced amounts of eyesore in the form of "marry me,afridi","rahul,i love u"!
is there any Player in the world who is good looking that u cannot help urself from making a "marry me, ......" banner and go with it to the stadium ???
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Old September 20, 2010, 01:24 AM
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Is good/hot looking any criteria to bring a player into team?

That's good for becoming a cheer leader
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Old September 20, 2010, 05:24 AM
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@BANFAN bhai,i didn't say that it's a criteria.it was just one of those things....
@offstump bhai,ummm no,not really.even if i have the biggest crush on that cricketer because i know that just because i carry a placard saying "marry me",he's not going to do so and it's a rather silly thing to do.
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Old September 20, 2010, 07:48 AM
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I hope he makes a good enough transition from our pitiful domestic cricket to the highest level when he gets the chance to show what he can do in the middle, whenever that may be. If he does, he'd be able to get the long enough run necessary to show he's capable of improving consistently, and sustain whatever success that may come his way.

That being said, Shubhagoto Hom is definitely my new homeboy based on what I've seen of him in domestic. Wish him all the best.
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"Sort of good looking"? Dude, that guy's hot.
*Here comes Zeeshan bhai get ready.

but I agree, he got the looks thats for sure.
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Old September 20, 2010, 10:26 PM
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But I still think if they have it in them, they're only gonna only get better. In the case of fast bowlers too, it's better to make an early debut because, you're not gonna get a long run with a 28+ year old guy. So the earlier the better. Well Talha got injured, his bad. That'd have happened in any phase of his career, don't you agree?

BTW most of the above mentioned players have a pretty average FC stats to back them
Of course, if you have it in you, you are bound to shine. But not everyone is a Tendulkar, when you throw a 19 year old into the fire called international cricket, chances are he will be burnt in the heat rather than fight the fire.
Also, a player usually has 6-10 years at his peak, if one joins the team at 28, it means he can play till he is 35[ 7 years], I think that is more than enough for one player. Also if one player is hogging the national team spot for 15 years, it means he will stop younger guys from entering and might create a vacuum.[have a look at India, compare Dravid,laxman,Tendulkar, Ganguly with Kohli, Sharma, Uthapa,Yuvraj Raina]

The bottom line is, I don't mind players getting a go at 18-19, but only if he is well developed by that age. Otherwise I would pick 6-7 great years instead of 2-3 terrific years and 10 years of "promise"
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Of course, if you have it in you, you are bound to shine. But not everyone is a Tendulkar, when you throw a 19 year old into the fire called international cricket, chances are he will be burnt in the heat rather than fight the fire.
Also, a player usually has 6-10 years at his peak, if one joins the team at 28, it means he can play till he is 35[ 7 years], I think that is more than enough for one player. Also if one player is hogging the national team spot for 15 years, it means he will stop younger guys from entering and might create a vacuum.[have a look at India, compare Dravid,laxman,Tendulkar, Ganguly with Kohli, Sharma, Uthapa,Yuvraj Raina]

The bottom line is, I don't mind players getting a go at 18-19, but only if he is well developed by that age. Otherwise I would pick 6-7 great years instead of 2-3 terrific years and 10 years of "promise"
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It could be another reason why players show reduced age!
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Old September 21, 2010, 10:24 AM
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Of course, if you have it in you, you are bound to shine. But not everyone is a Tendulkar, when you throw a 19 year old into the fire called international cricket, chances are he will be burnt in the heat rather than fight the fire.
Erm, I don't think so. Why take Tendu as example? Take Shaks, Tamim etc. If they are real deal, theya are indeed gonna Shine. This is BD they are playing for, low expectations, so don't think they will have such tremendous pressure compared to other teams.
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Also, a player usually has 6-10 years at his peak, if one joins the team at 28, it means he can play till he is 35[ 7 years], I think that is more than enough for one player. Also if one player is hogging the national team spot for 15 years, it means he will stop younger guys from entering and might create a vacuum.[have a look at India, compare Dravid,laxman,Tendulkar, Ganguly with Kohli, Sharma, Uthapa,Yuvraj Raina]

The bottom line is, I don't mind players getting a go at 18-19, but only if he is well developed by that age. Otherwise I would pick 6-7 great years instead of 2-3 terrific years and 10 years of "promise"
See, I'm all for him being picked after getting enough practice. But if he's doing well (which he is) for a reasonable period, I don't think age alone should be a factor for getting him in the team.

And I didn't get your Dravid/Tendu/Gangu vs Kohli Sharma Raina analogy
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Old October 7, 2010, 12:23 AM
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Yet another 100 for Hom.

Time for Intl debut?
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