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Old October 29, 2009, 11:41 PM
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Old October 30, 2009, 12:05 AM
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We should start thinking of new bowling coach.That sri-lankan one is no good for us.
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Old October 30, 2009, 01:20 AM
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Old October 30, 2009, 03:43 AM
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get a freaking better coach.
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Old October 30, 2009, 08:46 AM
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where is mash's brother--i heard he is a good option for future

mashrafe, rasel and najmul are okay (just need to be injury free)
emon, subhashis roy and rubel need coach's surveilance
shahadat--seems like new and update version to me
tareq and talha---- very consistent, need to be watch out
left alone--all under 19
sajedul, robin---- didnt show anything recently.
dollar---always over rated bowler.
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Old October 30, 2009, 10:04 AM
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Mash in recent times has improved. He was key in the wins against NZ and SL. Also he consistently takes wickets in tests even if not in heaps. His death bowling has also improved I feel. Remember bowling straight six yorkers against Oz only for Nazmul to get hit for four 4's in the next over? And he can bat. I am slightly a fan of Rasel but rest just do not hit the mark. ZERO mental toughness.
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Old October 30, 2009, 02:23 PM
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They should try Tarek Azizi, and Talha jubair, instead of NAZMUL AND DOLLAR for next match
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Old October 30, 2009, 03:49 PM
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where is mash's brother--i heard he is a good option for future

mashrafe, rasel and najmul are okay (just need to be injury free)
emon, subhashis roy and rubel need coach's surveilance
shahadat--seems like new and update version to me
tareq and talha---- very consistent, need to be watch out
left alone--all under 19
sajedul, robin---- didnt show anything recently.
dollar---always over rated bowler.
yeah where is mash's brother, didn't someone say he was supposed to be better than mash?
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Old October 30, 2009, 03:51 PM
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Mash in recent times has improved. He was key in the wins against NZ and SL. Also he consistently takes wickets in tests even if not in heaps. His death bowling has also improved I feel. Remember bowling straight six yorkers against Oz only for Nazmul to get hit for four 4's in the next over? And he can bat. I am slightly a fan of Rasel but rest just do not hit the mark. ZERO mental toughness.
mash is definitely a good bowler when inform, he really amazed me with his consistent line and length the last time BD came to australia, he was beating the bat alot.
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Old October 30, 2009, 04:03 PM
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Drop Dollar and bring back Shahadat - can't be any worse.
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Old October 30, 2009, 07:50 PM
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dollar is alredy dropping. financial crisis all round the world
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Old October 30, 2009, 08:26 PM
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Lets admit it- we don't have any decent pacer in the pipeline except Masrafee. Dollar, Nazmul Rubel, Sazidul are all below average. If we want to win, have Dollar play in the opponent team. With his highest economy rate, we sure can win. Otherwise, we are really screwed.
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Old October 30, 2009, 08:36 PM
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Lets admit it- we don't have any decent pacer in the pipeline except Masrafee. Dollar, Nazmul Rubel, Sazidul are all below average. If we want to win, have Dollar play in the opponent team. With his highest economy rate, we sure can win. Otherwise, we are really screwed.
disagree sorry, look at the players some of us have listed, they may not be ready now, but if they're coached and managed properly some of them should be decent in the future. biggest thing for BD pacers imo is to focus on line and length, especially the guys who actually have that 130kph+ pace.
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Old October 30, 2009, 09:51 PM
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same thread opener, same concern => a few months ago....

any improvements? have we got any new talent? no.

I appreciate ATMR's effort though, it is a great big of a concern and every world killer team has at least one killer fast bowler!

South africa: Steyn
Australia: Mitchelle Johnson
India: Ishant Sharma
England: James Anderson
West Indies: Kemar Roach
Bangladesh: Rubel Hossain(I am not writing him off yet!!!)
New Zealand: Shane Bond
Pakistan: Mohammad Amir
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Old October 30, 2009, 10:14 PM
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same thread opener, same concern => a few months ago....

any improvements? have we got any new talent? no.

I appreciate ATMR's effort though, it is a great big of a concern and every world killer team has at least one killer fast bowler!

South africa: Steyn
Australia: Mitchelle Johnson
India: Ishant Sharma
England: James Anderson
West Indies: Kemar Roach
Bangladesh: Rubel Hossain(I am not writing him off yet!!!)
New Zealand: Shane Bond
Pakistan: Mohammad Amir
ishant has lost something, he's not bowling as quick and isn't as potent, not sure he classes as a killer fast bowler atm...anderson is too inconsistent imo to be put in that class, kemar is still really fresh and has to prove it over long term but definitely has looked good so far, rubel has the pace and a few weapons but lacks the essential line and length consistency which is a must for a top quality pacer, amir i wouldn't call a killer fast bowler because he doesn't take bags of wickets although he clearly has talent. sri lanka have malinga but he's got to prove himself again after the injuries.

really atm the fast bowling stocks around the world aren't that great, the main issue with BD pacers is that the consistent line and length bowlers don't have enough pace or variations and the ones that have the pace and the swing etc don't have consistent enough line and length.

as far as new talent goes, emon ahmed is the new name going around, also mash's brother was supposed to be around this season and he is supposed to be pretty decent. give the youngsters some time to develop, a few of them have the weapons to be good international bowlers, they just need a couple more years to work on their weaknesses.
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Old October 31, 2009, 01:22 AM
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highly over rated bowler--------dollar mahmud (even under 19 level he was expensive)
over rated batsman--- nadif chowdhury
over rated hard hitter----najmul hossain milon (very inconsistent)
above all-----ashraful (so unexpected, he is worst in consistency)
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Old October 31, 2009, 09:14 AM
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The trend of massive initial scores within first 15 overs continue. Our pace attack currently is below top ten nation. Zimbabwe's ineptitude against spinners are bringing us back to the field in every game. But, this won't happen against bigger nations. If they get a start like what Zim is getting ( 100 runs within 15 overs ), then spinners won't matter, the total will be around 300+ regardless . I assure you that. This is our biggest weak link now.
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Old October 31, 2009, 10:43 AM
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so are we going to try Shahadat in next match? or just continue with one pacer Nazmul (he got 3 wickets aswell)

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Old October 31, 2009, 03:06 PM
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The trend of massive initial scores within first 15 overs continue. Our pace attack currently is below top ten nation. Zimbabwe's ineptitude against spinners are bringing us back to the field in every game. But, this won't happen against bigger nations. If they get a start like what Zim is getting ( 100 runs within 15 overs ), then spinners won't matter, the total will be around 300+ regardless . I assure you that. This is our biggest weak link now.
totally agree with Beamer...our pace department and fileding becoming serious concern...pacers are so ordinary nowadays that any top ten will score 300+ runs against us
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Old November 1, 2009, 09:41 AM
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i'd like to see rubel getting practice over shahadat to be honest. maybe give shahadat one game to show what he has. maybe rest nazmul for the final match, although he's only played 2 games. we should test out our bench strength.

but once a healthy mash and rasel come back, our pace problems will be much better. we just don't have much depth. but hopefully rubel will develop, and nazmul can continue the hard work to be our 4th pacer.
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Old November 1, 2009, 10:57 AM
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Dolar has been fined 15% of his match fee for those two beamers.
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Old November 1, 2009, 11:01 AM
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I think with Mash back and Rasel (in top form) we will have a decent opening combo (in ODIs atleast). Nazmul can become the third pacer (if required).
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Old November 1, 2009, 04:19 PM
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I thought Nazmul did pretty good in 3rd ODI. Looked like Nazmul was under used in that game. I was unable to rationalize why he was removed after his 3rd over when wh just got a wicket with decent economy rate.

Bringing two spinners from both end that early when they (spinners) were bleeding runs from both end didn't made sense to me. I would prefer to let nazmu bowl for 5 overs during initial power play.
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Old November 1, 2009, 04:25 PM
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3 wickets in 4 overs, economy rate of under 4, yeah nazmul did well in the last game, in ODIs i'd definitely put him in the mash/rasel group atm who are a cut above the rest of the BD pacers.
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Old November 1, 2009, 04:28 PM
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Well I would term our pacers in these group depending on their developed. The top group means they have developed their potential to at least international class. Group 2 still developoing, but has shown performances against top opposition, but hasnt developed consistancy. Group 3 needs a lot of development but has potential, or hasnt had enough international exposure.

Group 1: Mashrafe Mortaza, Syed Rasel

Group 2: Nazmul Hossain, Rubel Hossain Shahadat Hossain

Group 3: Dolar Mahmud, Robin, Roy, Ziaur Rahman, Abul Hasan, Tareq Aziz, Talha Jubair (the rest of the academy pacer), missed out a few here.
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