Qualification Scenarios for Bangladesh

[One World]

Aussies will try to lose just to take care of Eng later - there may be some evil ploy behind

[al Furqaan]

Simpler now.

We must beat PAK or India.

Then, England must lose all its matches, SL must lose 2/3 and PAK must lose to NZ.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by One World
Aussies will try to lose just to take care of Eng later - there may be some evil ploy behind

It’s in every teams interests that BD is #4 because AUS IND and NZ can all be #1

[godzilla]

Originally Posted by One World
Aussies will try to lose just to take care of Eng later - there may be some evil ploy behind

You have to be out of your mind to give england a semi-final chance to "take care of them later". Thier batsmen can outbat you to the moon. Heck, even Pakistan is not a safe choice, those guys can turn up any time. Amir is in red hot form.

Every single team would prefer our toothless bowling team than england or even pakistan.

[cricket_king]

Originally Posted by godzilla
You have to be out of your mind to give england a semi-final chance to "take care of them later". Thier batsmen can outbat you to the moon. Heck, even Pakistan is not a safe choice, those guys can turn up any time. Amir is in red hot form.

Every single team would prefer our toothless bowling team than england or even pakistan.

LOL this is so true.

[One World]

Originally Posted by godzilla
You have to be out of your mind to give england a semi-final chance to "take care of them later". Thier batsmen can outbat you to the moon. Heck, even Pakistan is not a safe choice, those guys can turn up any time. Amir is in red hot form.

Every single team would prefer our toothless bowling team than england or even pakistan.

Based on past experience, there is some ongoing camaraderie among certain boards, and people enjoy having their frenemies around. Do not ignore the monetary prospect either.

[ma_o_mati]

Which team’s victory is better for bd tomorrow? Pak or nz?

[nightman]

Originally Posted by ma_o_mati
Which team’s victory is better for bd tomorrow? Pak or nz?

It is always better when Pak looses.. haha

On a serious note, it is imperative that Pak looses to nz.. if Pak win, they will go on to the semis, destroying our dreams.. and might even go on win the worldcup like 92.

[cricman]

Originally Posted by ma_o_mati
Which team’s victory is better for bd tomorrow? Pak or nz?

NZ


Gives us an opportunity to advance if we lost to India if we beat Pakistan

[ma_o_mati]

Originally Posted by nightman
It is always better when Pak looses.. haha

On a serious note, it is imperative that Pak looses to nz.. if Pak win, they will go on to the semis, destroying our dreams.. and might even go on win the worldcup like 92.

If pakistan looses tomorrow, does that mean they are out? And nz moves to the semis ?

[Fazal]

We can lose one more he and still go to semi final?

[NoName]

Originally Posted by Fazal
We can lose one more he and still go to semi final?

We need to win one more at least granted England lose both their next games, if they win one we need two wins.

Also taking in to consideration Pak don't win all three of their remaining games and Lanka not winning more than one

[Leafs PWN]

Originally Posted by nightman
It is always better when Pak looses.. haha

On a serious note, it is imperative that Pak looses to nz.. if Pak win, they will go on to the semis, destroying our dreams.. and might even go on win the worldcup like 92.

This is incorrect.

If Pakistan wins against NZ and AFG, and lose to us, we will have the same points as them assuming we lose to India.

In that situation it comes down to NRR, in which we will be superior to Pakistan. Second tie breaker is head to head, which we will also have.

So tomorrows game really is not as big as you are making it sound.

However if Pakistan lose tomorrow, then as long as we beat them there will be one less team competing for the final spot if we can beat them.

[godzilla]

Originally Posted by ma_o_mati
If pakistan looses tomorrow, does that mean they are out? And nz moves to the semis ?

Even if Pakistan looses tomorrow, we loose to India, game is still on. The only possible way for us to be out, along side pak and SL is if England wins 2/2 of their last games. If England looses 2/2, 100% they are out assuming no washout.
In that scenario, either one of pak/BD will go through assuming pak goes on to beat AFG. Or SL could go through aswell if they win at least two more games and if both BD/pak looses one out of their last remaining matches

[Tiger Manc]

How have Australia already qualified?

Let's say Australia lose both remaining matches and remain on 12 points

NZ beat Pak, Aus and have 15 points

Ind beat WI and Ban and have 13 points

Eng beat Ind and NZ and have 12 points

SL beat SA, WI and Ind and have 12 points

Australia can still get knocked out on NRR can't they?

[godzilla]

Originally Posted by Tiger Manc
How have Australia already qualified?

Let's say Australia lose both remaining matches and remain on 12 points

NZ beat Pak, Aus and have 15 points

Ind beat WI and Ban and have 13 points

Eng beat Ind and NZ and have 12 points

SL beat SA, WI and Ind and have 12 points

Australia can still get knocked out on NRR can't they?

They can but realistically speaking, SL RR is piss poor. Not to mention AUS would have to loose by a huge margin, vise versa for Lanka. Mathematically you are correct, but realistically it's highly unlikely.

[napoleonIV]

Before runrate, the teams will be compared based on number of wins. Sri Lanka will have fewer wins than Australia.

[MHRAM]

Originally Posted by napoleonIV
Before runrate, the teams will be compared based on number of wins. Sri Lanka will have fewer wins than Australia.

Exactly

1st priority is number of points, then number of wins and then NRR.

Now even if Lanka and Aus are on same points, Lanka had 1 less win Australia

[ToBeFair]

Permutation combination won't take us to semi, we need to beat IND and PAK

[MHRAM]

To put this way, for BD to qualify despite winning only one match we need the following to happen:

1) England losing both their games
2) NZ beating SL and Pakistan
3) SA beating SL and WI
4) Afghanistan beating WI(If SA doesn't beat WI)
5) Afghanistan beating Pak
6) India beating both WI and SL

So as you can clearly see, there is a lot that needs to go our way for that to happen. But for Bangladesh to qualify, it is almost imperative that we beat India and Pakistan, and hope England don't win more than 1 game.

[hoodlum]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
3) SA beating SL and WI
4) Afghanistan beating WI(If SA doesn't beat WI)

SA vs WI has been washed out already.

[i_am_ringo]

Originally Posted by hoodlum
SA vs WI has been washed out already.

So are their washed up super stars...
fal tu plessis

Chris Fayle

[nightman]

Originally Posted by Leafs PWN
This is incorrect.

If Pakistan wins against NZ and AFG, and lose to us, we will have the same points as them assuming we lose to India.

In that situation it comes down to NRR, in which we will be superior to Pakistan. Second tie breaker is head to head, which we will also have.

So tomorrows game really is not as big as you are making it sound.

However if Pakistan lose tomorrow, then as long as we beat them there will be one less team competing for the final spot if we can beat them.

Yes, but why take chance? Since Pak is also a contender, and our win against Pak is not guaranteed.
I said Pak needs to loose for us to get better chance. They will be out of wc if they loose against nz as nrr will not help them even if they beat us somehow.

This Pak team is exactly playing like they played in 92. Their win loss pattern is exactly the same. Need to break that pattern.

Sometimes it feels like this whole wc is scripted if you look at Pakistan's pattern.

[MHRAM]

Originally Posted by hoodlum
SA vs WI has been washed out already.

Sorry my bad

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by ToBeFair
Permutation combination won't take us to semi, we need to beat IND and PAK

i like it.