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Old August 23, 2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Idea: Solution for Super sub.

A team should always pick a change bowler (preferably spinner) as the supersub and then make one of the openning bowlers bowl 10 overs straight and then take him out to get the super sub in. That way an extra batsman will always get the chance to bat.

Is there any rule that prohibits dumping a bowler who has already bowled 10 overs?
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Old August 23, 2005, 01:44 PM
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What if the bowlers is giving runs away, if he is giving away 8 or 9 or even more runs per over ??

Good Idea but.........

I don't think 100 %. Because it looks same as before for the team batting first.
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Old August 23, 2005, 01:45 PM
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Its true.....
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Old August 23, 2005, 01:49 PM
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What if the bowlers is giving runs away, if he is giving away 8 or 9 or even more runs per over ??

Good Idea but.........

I don't think 100 %. Because it looks same as before for the team batting first.
Its not.

For example. In the 3rd asia-africa game:

Injaamam could have finished Zahir or Shoaib's overs and bring Nehra in for one of them. That way he saves a batsman(Ashraful)

If Asia batted first they could have done the same without sacrificing the extra batsman.
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Old August 23, 2005, 01:53 PM
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No, the replacement player's quota counts as the replaced player's quota. So if Nehra came in, he could not bowl any more as Zahir or Shoaib has finished the bowling quota for one player.
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Old August 23, 2005, 01:55 PM
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No, the replacement player's quota counts as the replaced player's quota. So if Nehra came in, he could not bowl any more as Zahir or Shoaib has finished the bowling quota for one player.
Ok. thanks. The idea doesn't work then.
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Old August 23, 2005, 01:55 PM
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Supersub rule needs to die.

It's the only solution
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Old August 23, 2005, 01:57 PM
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Supersub rule needs to die.

It's the only solution
Agree.
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Old August 23, 2005, 02:04 PM
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No, the replacement player's quota counts as the replaced player's quota. So if Nehra came in, he could not bowl any more as Zahir or Shoaib has finished the bowling quota for one player.
Ok. thanks. The idea doesn't work then.

i think If ICC allowe to declare both teams after toss (may be with in 10 mins) then super sub will be more effective
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Old August 23, 2005, 03:06 PM
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Thats right..!!! English commentrator also talked about this Idea.

And Not to worry, This is jst an experiment they (ICC) are doing right now. Its not fixed. they said they will find out after mew months and there will be reports about it from all the ICC nations. Then they will decide whether to take this system or any changes or no sub at all.

Lets see......
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Old August 23, 2005, 03:19 PM
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First it was the day-night game where the result was heavily dependant on winning the toss. Till then some teams have overcome that problem now ICC is coming up with ideas to make the toss more worth while. What crapy way to introduce changes. - (Just a joke)

If we play any team whose 12 th member is a batsmen that indicates they want to bowl first and substitute a batsmen. To negate that me must have bowler as a 12th man and include an extra batsman in the line up. If the opposition changes its tactics then we change our line up. The trick is to wait till opponents list their 12.
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Old August 23, 2005, 03:24 PM
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if both teams want to bat first or last then get an allrounder as a 12 man (please not chacha). So losing the toss would not hurt basher much.
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Old August 23, 2005, 06:01 PM
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Does anyone know of articles/comments from "real" cricket pundits againts the super-sub rule?
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Old August 23, 2005, 06:35 PM
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dunno if you'd consider aggers a real pundit, but FWIW ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/4661635.stm
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Old August 23, 2005, 07:06 PM
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Supersub rule should be modified. Like some of you said earlier, final eleven should be named after the toss. Otherwise this rule is useless and unfair so far
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Old August 23, 2005, 11:53 PM
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Yeah I too agree with sovik. It doesnt looks like a wise rule now in supersub
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Old August 24, 2005, 12:20 AM
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I think all four players outside the first eleven should be eligible to be that one sub, that way the game would be more tactical and less toss dependent.
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Old August 24, 2005, 01:28 AM
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SUpersub is making cricket more complex. You can have it in 20-20 cricket but not in a 50 over match.
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