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Old October 29, 2019, 08:46 AM
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Its a suspension ... he will be able to play from Oct 2020 unless he commits another "ACU CRIME" within the first year...

but yes - getting banned for a year for something this stupid is just stupidity .... stupid stupid law!!!! what about a warning?
Stupid 3 times ?
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Old October 29, 2019, 08:46 AM
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Has anyone read the verdict pdf file? The punishment has been harsh, but my question is: why did Shakib continue conversation with that Aggrawal guy?
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Old October 29, 2019, 08:48 AM
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No they are not at the discretion of the Boards.
when i wrote boards i meant the governing body. ICC. anyways. I am not gonna argue with you anymore because u see things everything as binary.
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Old October 29, 2019, 08:52 AM
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Shakib may soon find himself out of favor with Sheikh Hasina.
That was my prediction after the strike. Here is Hon'ble PM's reaction today:

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আজারবাইজান সফরের বিস্তারিত জানাতে ডাকা সংবাদ সম্মেলনের প্রশ্নোত্তর পর্বে প্রথমেই সাকিব আল হাসানের প্রসঙ্গ এসেছে। সেখানে প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনা বলেছেন, ‘বিসিবি সব সময় সাকিবের সঙ্গে আছে এবং তাকে সব ধরনের সহযোগিতা করবে। ক্রিকেট খেলোয়াড়দের সঙ্গে জুয়াড়িরা যোগাযোগ করে। ওর যেটা ভুল হয়েছে, যখন যোগাযোগ করা হয়েছে, তখন বিষয়টি বিশেষ গুরুত্ব দেয়নি। সে কথাটি আইসিসিকে জানায়নি। নিয়মটা হচ্ছে, সঙ্গে সঙ্গে জানানো উচিত ছিল। সে এটাই ভুল করেছে। আইসিসি যদি অবস্থান নেয়, সে ক্ষেত্রে আমাদের তো খুব বেশি কিছু করণীয় থাকে না। আমাদের দেশের ক্রিকেটার এবং খেলোয়াড় হিসেবে তার একটি অবস্থান আছে। সে ভুল করেছে, এটা ঠিক। সে সেটা বুঝতেও পেরেছে। আর বিসিবি বলেছে, তার পাশে তারা থাকবে। এর চেয়ে খুব বেশি যে করণীয় কিছু আছে, তা কিন্তু না।’
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Old October 29, 2019, 08:58 AM
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I don't think Shakib is all to sad about this. He probably just sees it as a 1yr Vacation
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Old October 29, 2019, 08:58 AM
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when i wrote boards i meant the governing body. ICC. anyways. I am not gonna argue with you anymore because u see things everything as binary.
What Binary?
  • Rules are defined
  • Punishment is defined
  • Players are informed about both
  • The player failed to report approaches on multiple occasions

Isnt there a saying that goes "If you cant do the time dont do the crime"
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:00 AM
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Azhar never played
Prabhakar never played
Cronje Never played
Sreesanth banned
you do know unlike them shakib didn't fixed anything?

I didn't said icc shouldn't punish shaikb. I was merely saying giving two year ban for this is ridiculous no matter how you play this. You must living in lala land if you really believe any player from india,aus or england would have got the same punishment for this.

And seeing that you are so full on playing by rules. If thats the case 12 months ban with 6 month reduction would have been perfectly fine.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:10 AM
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you do know unlike them shakib didn't fixed anything?

I didn't said icc shouldn't punish shaikb. I was merely saying giving two year ban for this is ridiculous no matter how you play this. You must living in lala land if you really believe any player from india,aus or england would have got the same punishment for this.

And seeing that you are so full on playing by rules. If thats the case 12 months ban with 6 month reduction would have been perfectly fine.
Practically only 1 year ban, that too will be reduced to 6 months.
He was not going to play vs India anyhow.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:13 AM
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you do know unlike them shakib didn't fixed anything?

I didn't said icc shouldn't punish shaikb. I was merely saying giving two year ban for this is ridiculous no matter how you play this. You must living in lala land if you really believe any player from india,aus or england would have got the same punishment for this.

And seeing that you are so full on playing by rules. If thats the case 12 months ban with 6 month reduction would have been perfectly fine.
And thats why he is banned only for a year. If you read up Azhar wasnt charged with match fixing. He was charged with associating with bookies.

Lou Vincent Banned for 3 years banned for failure to report an approach to fix a game in the Bangladesh Premier League

Kaushal Lokuarachchi 18 months Ban for failure to report an approach to fix a game in the Bangladesh Premier League.

Irfan Ahmed 30 months ban in April 2016 for failure to disclose "full details of approaches or invitations to engage in corrupt conduct that had been made to him between January 2012 and January 2014"

Siddharth Trivedi 1 year ban for failing to report that bookies approached him, even though he had no involvement in match fixing or spot fixing.

So why should Shakib be treated any different
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:14 AM
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This is what happens when you resist against fascism - you get annihilated.
That's exactly what it is!
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:15 AM
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Practically only 1 year ban, that too will be reduced to 6 months.
He was not going to play vs India anyhow.
It is actually a 2 year ban with the second year suspended. He could be playing next November unless he goes and does something stupid
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:17 AM
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they need to revisit the punishments. It doesn't fit the crime. He didn't cheat or conspired to do anything.

So someone randomly can approach you and ruin your career.

Smith was handed a 3 day ban by ICC for cheating, it was australia who took it on him for their image. Whereas a Bangladeshi guy didn't cheat but get 2 years by ICC...

Ridiculous. Double standard.
Because this time it's the board itself who took revenge by reporting it. Shakib is just a victim of our corrupt system. He should retire and go to the US and maybe focus on developing US cricket.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:20 AM
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Where when and who was the bookie?
He is someone powerful connected with club cricket. And Shakib did tell Papon about it right away and Papon told him not to worry and focus on playing. But when the relationship between Papon and Shakib got bitter, Papon reported this to ACSU.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:25 AM
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He is someone powerful connected with club cricket. And Shakib did tell Papon about it right away and Papon told him not to worry and focus on playing. But when the relationship between Papon and Shakib got bitter, Papon reported this to ACSU.
That was a question for iDumb who claimed that he knows a known bookie meeting VK
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:30 AM
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Its a suspension ... he will be able to play from Oct 2020 unless he commits another "ACU CRIME" within the first year...

but yes - getting banned for a year for something this stupid is just stupidity .... stupid stupid law!!!! what about a warning?
Also sometimes the players are scared for their lives or for their families. So it's not always possible for them to follow the rules.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:35 AM
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Azhar never played
Prabhakar never played
Cronje Never played
Sreesanth banned
Theirs were unpardonable crimes and proved. They were match-fixers! So nothing that their board could have done. But I assume getting approached by bookies might be pretty common in the cricket arena, and do you think all of those get reported? Heck no! Shakib did report it to the board and then forgot about it as he thought the board will take care of it.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:40 AM
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He is someone powerful connected with club cricket. And Shakib did tell Papon about it right away and Papon told him not to worry and focus on playing. But when the relationship between Papon and Shakib got bitter, Papon reported this to ACSU.
Reliable Source?
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:41 AM
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This has got to be the craziest week in Bangladesh cricket. What a gong show.
All for negative reasons
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:43 AM
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Thank you for posting these links. But it's simply way too much work for the majority of posters to click and read the actual established facts and timeline of events. Why bother when you can do some fan fiction. Moderators instead of putting a stop to this are supporting character assassination of the BCB President and encouraging false narratives. How this forum has deteriorated.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:45 AM
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Reliable Source?
A person very close to Shakib i.e. she doesn't have a reliable source.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:49 AM
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Okay let's all come down everyone. My office. NOW!!!!!
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:53 AM
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'Do we work in this or I wait til the IPL' - Bookie to Shakib

Failure to report several approaches from an alleged corruptor Deepak Aggarwal, who was seeking inside information, is why Bangladesh's Test and T20I captain Shakib Al Hassan has been banned by the ICC's anti-corruption unit on Tuesday.

We don't know yet why Shakib, cricket's premier allrounder (he is ranked third in Tests, first in ODIs and second in T20Is in the ICC's player rankings) failed to report the approaches to the ACU, especially as he has previously reported corrupt approaches. But we do know a little about the conversations with Aggarwal that led to this sanction.

November 2017

According to information made public by the ICC, the first time Aggarwal got in touch with Shakib was in November 2017, during the Bangladesh Premier League (BPL) where he was playing for Dhaka Dynamites. Shakib's contact, the ICC said, was provided to Aggarwal by "another person" who was close to the player. Aggarwal had asked this unnamed person to "provide" him with contacts for players in the 2017 BPL.

Over the course of several Whatsapp messages, Aggarwal tried to instigate a meeting with Shakib.

January 2018

Bangladesh hosted an ODI tri-series with Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe. On January 19, Bangladesh beat Sri Lanka and Shakib was Man-of-the-Match. Aggarwal "congratulated" Shakib on his performance and then followed it with a cryptic message that raised ACU eyebrows. "Mr Aggarwal followed this message with a message saying "do we work in this or I wait til the IPL"," the ICC said in the statement.

"The reference to "work" in this message was a reference to him [Shakib] providing Inside Information to Mr Aggarwal."

Shakib never reported this approach either to the ACU, or to any other relevant authority.

Four days later, Aggarwal sent another message, more explicit, to Shakib: "Bro anything in this series?" Once again Shakib opted not to report the approach to the ACU or even the BCB.

April 2018

On April 26, 2018, during IPL 2018, Sunrisers Hyderabad - Shakib's franchise - were playing a home match against Kings XI Punjab. Aggarwal messaged Shakib on the day of the match, and it was during this conversation that Shakib eventually said he wanted to meet Aggarwal.

"He received a WhatsApp message from Mr Aggarwal that day asking him whether a particular player was going to be playing in the game that day, i.e. again asking for Inside Information," the ICC statement said. "Mr Aggarwal continued this conversation with him by talking about bitcoins, dollar accounts and asked him for his dollar account details. During this conversation, he told Mr Aggarwal that he wanted to meet him "first"."

Shakib admitted to the ACU later that he had deleted several other messages from this April 26 Whatsapp conversation. It was then that Shakib grew concerned. However, once again he did not report the approach.

"He confirmed that he had concerns over Mr Aggarwal, feeling he was a bit "dodgy", and that, following their conversations, he had the feeling that Mr Aggarwal was a bookie," the ICC statement said.

The ACU officers interviewed Shakib in person in Bangladesh twice this year - on January 23 and then on August 27.

Shakib readily accepted the charges.

"During these interviews, Mr Al Hasan was cautioned that the answers and information provided by him could be used as evidence to support a charge or charges in relation to a breach of the Code, if they revealed that Mr Al Hasan might have breached the Code, either by acting corruptly himself or by failing to report corrupt approaches or corrupt actions by others. After receiving these cautions, Mr Al Hasan admitted various failures to report approaches made to him to provide Inside Information to Mr Aggarwal."

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_...-bookie-shakib
Wow........
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:55 AM
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Bangladesh players need to go on a strike and we as a country need to withdraw completely from ICC to show protest.
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Old October 29, 2019, 09:56 AM
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Old October 29, 2019, 10:01 AM
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Shakib need to realize if you go after Ivey Rahman's son, we gonna mangle you for the rest of your life.
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