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Old October 21, 2019, 02:59 AM
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Top Bangladesh players likely to go on strike amid growing discontent with cricket board - ESPNCricinfo

Bangladesh's cricketers have called a spontaneous - and unprecedented - press conference on Monday afternoon, with sources suggesting they could go on strike and even cast a shadow over next month's tour of India. The country's top cricketers are expected to be present at the press conference, which comes in the backdrop of simmering discontent among them over how the game is run in the country.

The trigger seems to be the Bangladesh Cricket Board's decision last month to abandon the Bangladesh Premier League's franchise-based model. It meant that the average professional cricketer's earning has gone to an all-time low. The players' woes were furthered after the BCB didn't raise the match fees in the first-class competition that began earlier this month. These, in addition to the salary cap applied to the Dhaka Premier League, although it used to be an open market for club-to-club transfer for players, for the last several years.

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Old October 21, 2019, 06:29 AM
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Shakib may soon find himself out of favor with Sheikh Hasina. Dictators do not like any protest whatsoever.

Possible solution will be 'dabi mene neya' superficially along with 'podanmontrir asshash' and a 'sakkhat at gonobhobon'. This has been Hasina strategy so far to quell any uprising. Let's see how much Shak and co can resist.
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Old October 21, 2019, 07:39 AM
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Shakib may soon find himself out of favor with Sheikh Hasina. Dictators do not like any protest whatsoever.

Possible solution will be 'dabi mene neya' superficially along with 'podanmontrir asshash' and a 'sakkhat at gonobhobon'. This has been Hasina strategy so far to quell any uprising. Let's see how much Shak and co can resist.
Problem is not SK, problem is the board. Dictator like SK will always want to provide highest benefit to specific group of people to ensure their regime's continuation. Look at how AL has raised the salary and benefits of civil servants.

Best part of Shakib is that she has direct communication with SK, bypassing Papon and his gang.
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Old October 21, 2019, 08:37 AM
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Of all series to go on strike before, they had to choose the tour of India

BCCI showed no mercy to WICB when their players went on strike before/during their tour of India
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Old October 21, 2019, 08:58 AM
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Here is the chance for BCB to send a second string team which may actually do much better than main team. What did the main team achieve so far? Innings defeats in test after test? Forgettable performance in T20. 8th positions in ODI world cup?
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Old October 21, 2019, 09:20 AM
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HAHAHA...how is the govt. running things working out?

Government will always mess things up.

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Old October 21, 2019, 10:39 AM
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Here is the chance for BCB to send a second string team which may actually do much better than main team. What did the main team achieve so far? Innings defeats in test after test? Forgettable performance in T20. 8th positions in ODI world cup?
This is not your only national team players strike, all the first class players numbering 70 are behind the senior cricketers. Only under 19s are barred, do you want under 19s to tour India to play a series against the man in blues? Perhaps as a preparation for under 19s wc next year lol
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Old October 21, 2019, 10:47 AM
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This is not your only national team players strike, all the first class players numbering 70 are behind the senior cricketers. Only under 19s are barred, do you want under 19s to tour India to play a series against the man in blues? Perhaps as a preparation for under 19s wc next year lol
Well what I read so far, some players gathered together in a press conference, the first condition criticizes their own association and their leadership so I doubt how united the movement is. Do they have an unanimous vote?

They are worried that now they have a harder beep test, the professionalism of coaches making them work harder, due to national duties they are missing on lucrative deals playing abroad, they are still the top earners in the country with minimum work-hours to the list, the perks they get are ominous and just dream for many highly educated youth in the country.

Do they have a count of how many jobless post graduate manpower our country is burdened with? Not that like Srilanka (while most of their tenure war-torn and still struggling with economy) they won multiple ICC trophies already

And also what about Afghanistan, they get the best hotels I guess so those players start peeing pants every time they play Rashid-Mujib-Nabi
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Old October 21, 2019, 10:53 AM
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shabbbashhhhhhhhhh. Finally Shakib does something unselfish. Totally back this strike. Its about time those crooks stop treating their job as a vacation.
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Old October 21, 2019, 10:57 AM
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Also for Shakib and few others what they could earn from upcoming games and tours can seem peanuts compared to what they have already acquired, Shakib probably have enough for 4 more generation to survive without doing anything but what about your average club cricketer who after years of struggle finally had a chance to play first-class and earn a decent living. Now he cannot back down as the seniors will not take it lightly. What a debacle
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Well what I read so far, some players gathered together in a press conference, the first condition criticizes their own association and their leadership so I doubt how united the movement is. Do they have an unanimous vote?

They are worried that now they have a harder beep test, the professionalism of coaches making them work harder, due to national duties they are missing on lucrative deals playing abroad, they are still the top earners in the country with minimum work-hours to the list, the perks they get are ominous and just dream for many highly educated youth in the country.

Do they have a count of how many jobless post graduate manpower our country is burdened with? Not that like Srilanka (while most of their tenure war-torn and still struggling with economy) they won multiple ICC trophies already

And also what about Afghanistan, they get the best hotels I guess so those players start peeing pants every time they play Rashid-Mujib-Nabi
Question remains the same, who will be the 2nd string side?
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Question remains the same, who will be the 2nd string side?
If only BCB becomes a bit more diplomatic and show the understudies the potential monetary and professional gain..
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Old October 21, 2019, 11:18 AM
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Completely agreed with the players' demands; most of these are quite reasonable. The players are scrutinised and criticised when there is a lack of performance and rightly so. But when it comes to the Board, Papon and his cronies have been abusing their seats of power without mandate and accountability. Time and again they have invented policy and regulations based on their whims. Hopefully this player strike provides them with a much needed reality check.
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Old October 21, 2019, 11:54 AM
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Some valid points in the demand, but very irresponsible timing by not letting the BCB negotiate with them first before it went to this stage i.e. hartal.

There are few other observation and question marks:

Sakib mentioned that in "all first class games", players already knows the result before the game. Is it true or is it "till ke taal kora". i.e. if "few games" or "all games"? Regardless "true or false" its a serious allegation by Sakib about BCB to the world. ICC investigation coming in our way? Also how come in their 11 point demand, its not there? He already made the allegation, what happens if BCB agree will all their 11 points but not match fixing allegation? Will the players (including Sakib) will all go back and forget about this serious match fixing issue? I think he opened the Pandora box already,.... some head will fall.... and someone need to pay the price for this allegation .....there is no way to put this under the rug unresolved without addressing the issue.

The other observation is: most of their demand is related to salary and income. Most likely when those demands are addressed partially, the other demands (regardless how noble those ideas are) will be ignored.

Interesting to see how Bhaira bhai, Imrul and Tamim's career unfolds in this mess. My guess is there will be less tolerance to these senior players in future. Ektu norecho tou moresho.... less tolerance to their slumps.


If it goes too long.... few series will be cancelled, but eventually they will increase the flow of new bloods at rapid rate to reduce the influence of these over the hill senior players.


Papon is a shrewd and underrated about his management skill among the fans. He will find out the real trouble makers. They will be phased out sooner then later. Sakib is the only exceptional case, but he is not committed long term, he will leave one way or another. The rest (senior players) are replaceable (except for Mushfiq may be) .....sooner or later. And he has hundred percent backing of Hasina about whatever he plans to do.





So whatever happens... happens, but some senior players exits will be sooner than later. Mid term Is it good or bad? I don't know.....but short term it will be a roller coaster ride.
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Old October 21, 2019, 12:25 PM
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Some valid points in the demand, but very irresponsible timing by not letting the BCB negotiate with them first before it went to this stage i.e. hartal.

There are few other observation and question marks:

Sakib mentioned that in "all first class games", players already knows the result before the game. Is it true or is it "till ke taal kora". i.e. if "few games" or "all games"? Regardless "true or false" its a serious allegation by Sakib about BCB to the world. ICC investigation coming in our way? Also how come in their 11 point demand, its not there? He already made the allegation, what happens if BCB agree will all their 11 points but not match fixing allegation? Will the players (including Sakib) will all go back and forget about this serious match fixing issue? I think he opened the Pandora box already,.... some head will fall.... and someone need to pay the price for this allegation .....there is no way to put this under the rug unresolved without addressing the issue.
He mentioned about the first, second, third divisions and lower rungs of the leagues not first class matches. And he mentoined it on the context of how poor and biased umpiring decisions are ruining the prospects of upcoming players.

Please check this clip - https://youtu.be/3CIsTfs2dI4

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Their demands are reasonable when it comes to payment and income, BCB cronies seems to hoard all the wealth. It was astonishing to learn the training facilities in Mirpur doesn't even have an air conditioner

"Players should be allowed to play more than two overseas franchise-based league"

^ This part made me laugh though, definitely seems like a last minute point Shakib decided to mix in as he knows he is the only player good enough from this country to get even two or more contracts for overseas leagues
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He mentioned about the second, third divisions and lower rungs of the leagues not first class matches. And he mentoined it on the context of how poor and biased umpiring decisions are ruining the prospects of upcoming players.

Please check this clip - https://youtu.be/3CIsTfs2dI4



Here is the news my information is based on (where it mentioned about 1st devision cricket. :


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Even in your youtube link, Sakib started with "First division, 2nd Dvision, and 3rd division....". So even your own link support my "1st division" comment. Not sure where you are coming from when you mentioned its not 1st division he mentioned. Your you- tube reference even contradict your own comment.
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And First division equates First Class Matches?

First Class Matches are multi day matches recognised by ICC as the top tier of domestic matches organised by member Boards. For Bangladesh - NCL, BCL.

First division, second division, etc in the context of Bangladesh cricket are Dhaka Premier league and the bottom rung leagues which are recognised as List A matches.

Putting aside the nitpicking of match categories, I am yet to hear or see a report where the players are accusing the board of Match fixing. Hopefully this is not a case of making "teel key taal" from us supporters
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Bcb will fix this. There is no way they want to miss out India tour. India tour is the biggest revenue generating event for any board, and bcb will not mess it up.

Hasina is also in good terms with Shakib. So chances are most of the demands will be acknowledged.
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And First division equates First Class Matches.

First Class Matches are multi day matches recognised by ICC as the top tier of domestic matches organised by member Boards. First division, second division, et al in the context of Bangladesh cricket are Dhaka Premier league and the bottom rung leagues which are recognised as List A matches.

Nit-picking can go both ways my friend.



if you wanted to correct me you could have said, "he mentioned 1st division, not 1st class"


By mentioning, "He mentioned about the second, third divisions and lower rungs of the leagues not first class matches" and omitting 1st division, created more confusion and wrong information.




Now the question still remain the same. By accusing games in 1st, 2nd and 3rd division games are fixed, he cannot just wake away without addressing the issue as if nothing ever being said. Either he us right (with proof) or he is wrong .....there is no in between. if he is right, BCB has to do some serious damage control with their plan and address the issue and few BCB heads rolling. If Sakib is wrong, he is in deep trouble.... may be another "paa dhorey maaf chawa" incident... this time papon instead of Loitta.
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২. কত কয়েক বছর ঢাকা প্রিমিয়ার লিগের পরিস্থিতি কী, নিশ্চয়ই জানেন। যেভাবে লিগ হচ্ছে, সব খেলোয়াড় এটা নিয়ে অসন্তুষ্ট। পারিশ্রমিকের একটা মানদণ্ড বেঁধে দেওয়া হচ্ছে। অনেক সীমাবদ্ধতার মধ্যে খেলোয়াড়দের খেলতে হচ্ছে। আগে যেভাবে প্রিমিয়ার লিগ খেলতাম, যেভাবে আমরা ক্লাব অফিশিয়ালদের সঙ্গে চুক্তি করতাম...খেলোয়াড়দের পারিশ্রমিক নিয়ে তারা সক্রিয় থাকত। খেলোয়াড়েরা নিজেদের পছন্দ অনুযায়ী ক্লাব ঠিক করতে পারত। আমাদের দাবি, আগের মতো যেন ঢাকা প্রিমিয়ার লিগ ফিরে পাই।

৩. এ বছর বিপিএল অন্য নিয়মে হচ্ছে। এটাকে সম্মান করি। যেটা আমাদের দাবি, আগের নিয়মে বিপিএল যেন ফিরে আসে। সবচেয়ে গুরুত্বপূর্ণ, স্থানীয় ক্রিকেটাররা যেন বিদেশি ক্রিকেটারদের মতো ন্যায্য পারিশ্রমিক পায়। বাংলাদেশের ক্রিকেটাররা কে কোন গ্রেডে পড়বে, সেটি যেন নিশ্চিত করা হয়। নিলামে যদি কোনো ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি না নেয়, সেটি তাদের ব্যাপার। তবে খেলোয়াড়েরা যেন নিজেদের প্রাপ্য গ্রেডে থাকে।

৪. প্রথম শ্রেণির ক্রিকেটারদের পারিশ্রমিক ১ লাখ টাকা হতে হবে। প্রথম শ্রেণির ক্রিকেটারদের বেতন খুবই কম। ওটা অবশ্যই ৫০ শতাংশ বাড়াতে হবে। প্রতিটি বিভাগে খেলোয়াড়দের জিম, নেট, মাঠের সুযোগ-সুবিধা বাড়াতে হবে। ১২ মাস ফিজিও-ট্রেনার রাখতে হবে। এই ফিজিও-ট্রেনাররা প্রথম শ্রেণির ক্রিকেটারদের একটা প্রক্রিয়ার মধ্যে আনবে। যেন তারা সেভাবে কাজ করতে পারে। জানি আজ চাইলেই এটা হবে না। তবে আগামী মৌসুমের আগে এটা নিশ্চিত করতে হবে। চাই না প্রতিটি বিভাগের অনুশীলন ঢাকার এই একাডেমি মাঠে হোক। আমরা চাই প্রতিটি বিভাগ নিজেদের হোম ভেন্যুতে প্রস্তুতি নেবে। তাহলে ক্রিকেটের প্রসার হবে। প্রথম শ্রেণির ক্রিকেটে আরও অনেক ছোটখাটো বিষয় আছে। যেগুলো বিস্তারিত বলা কঠিন। তবু কিছু বলি, যেমন বল একটা বড় সমস্যা। প্রথম শ্রেণির ক্রিকেটে যে বল দেওয়া, সেটি মানসম্মত নয়। ওই বলে খেলে যখন আমরা আন্তর্জাতিক ম্যাচ খেলতে আসি, অনেক কষ্টে মানিয়ে নিতে হয়। এখন দৈনিক ভাতা দেওয়া হয় ১৫০০ টাকা। আমাদের কাছে যে ফিটনেস দাবি করা হচ্ছে, সেটি এই টাকায় সম্ভব নয়। স্বাভাবিকভাবে খেলোয়াড়দের স্বাস্থ্যসম্মত খেতে হয়। ভালো হোটেলে থাকতে হয়। ভালো থাকা-খাওয়ার জন্য যে টাকা লাগে, সেটি দিতে হবে। ভ্রমণে এখন দেওয়া হচ্ছে ২৫০০ টাকা। ধরুন, রাজশাহী থেকে একজন খেলোয়াড় যাবে দূরের আরেক ভেন্যুতে। এই ২৫০০ টাকায় বাস ছাড়া যাওয়া সম্ভব? এক ভেন্যু থেকে আরেক ভেন্যুতে যেতে বিমানে যেন চলাচল করতে পারে, সেটি নিশ্চিত করতে হবে। ভ্রমণভাতার দরকার নেই। বিমানের টিকিট যেন নিশ্চিত করা হয়। যে হোটেলে দল থাকবে, সেখানে অবশ্যই সুইমিং পুল ও জিম থাকতে হবে। চার দিনের ম্যাচে একজন খেলোয়াড়ের ওপর অনেক ধকল যায়। সেই ধকল কাটিয়ে ওঠার সুবিধা যেন টিম হোটেলে থাকে। ১-২ তারকার হোটেলে থাকা সম্ভব নয়। যে টিম বাস দেওয়া হয়, সেটি খুবই হতাশার। যে বাসে খেলোয়াড়েরা স্বচ্ছন্দবোধ করে, তেমন বাস যেন দেওয়া হয়।

৫. বিসিবির সঙ্গে চুক্তিবদ্ধ জাতীয় দলের খেলোয়াড় সংখ্যা বাড়াতে হবে। বিশ্বের সঙ্গে যদি তুলনা করেন, জাতীয় দলের চুক্তিবদ্ধ খেলোয়াড় সংখ্যা অনেক কম। সংখ্যাটা অন্তত ৩০ জন করতে হবে। বেতন বাড়াতে হবে। তিন বছর ধরে বেতন বাড়ানো হয় না।

৬. সম্মান শুধু ক্রিকেটাররা নন, মাঠে যারা কাজ করে, গ্রাউন্ডসম্যান সকাল থেকে রাত পর্যন্ত কাজ করে মাসে মাত্র ৫-৬ হাজার টাকা বেতন পান। একজন স্থানীয় কোচের কথা যদি বলি, আমরা নিজেরাই বাংলাদেশি কোচদের তুলে ধরতে চাই না। বিদেশি কোচের পেছনে যে টাকা ব্যয় করা হয়, তাতে আমাদের ২০ জন স্থানীয় কোচের বেতন হয়ে যায়! একটা সফরে দেখা গেল বাংলাদেশি কোচের অধীনে খেলোয়াড়েরা ভালো করেছে। দেখা যাবে পরের সফরে ওই কোচকে আর রাখা হচ্ছে না। আম্পায়ারিং নিয়ে সবাই অভিযোগ করি। কিন্তু তাদের তো আর্থিক নিশ্চয়তা দিতে হবে। একই কথা ফিজিও-ট্রেনারদের ক্ষেত্রেও। এটাই সঠিক সময় বিদেশিদের তুলনায় বাংলাদেশিদের গুরুত্ব দেওয়া।

৭. ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে আমরা দুটো প্রথম শ্রেণির ক্রিকেট খেলি। ৫০ ওভারের একটা লিগ খেলি। এখানে আরেকটা টুর্নামেন্ট বাড়ানো উচিত। বিপিএল দিয়ে একটা টি-টোয়েন্টি টুর্নামেন্ট খেলি। বিপিএলের আগ দিয়ে আরেকটি টি-টোয়েন্টি টুর্নামেন্ট হওয়া জরুরি। এতে বিপিএলে আরও ভালো করতে পারবে স্থানীয় ক্রিকেটাররা। আগে জাতীয় লিগে চার দিনের ম্যাচের সঙ্গে একটা ৫০ ওভারের ম্যাচ খেলতাম। এখন সেটি বন্ধ। আমরা চাই এটা আবার চালু হোক। যাতে আরও বেশি এক দিনের ম্যাচ খেলতে পারি।

৮. ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটের জন্য একটা নির্দিষ্ট ক্যালেন্ডার থাকতে হবে. যেটি দেখে আমরা আগ থেকেই প্রস্তুতি নিতে পারি।

৯. বিপিএল-প্রিমিয়ার লিগের পারিশ্রমিক যেন সময় মতো দেওয়া হয়। গত প্রিমিয়ার লিগ খেলা ব্রাদার্সের কাছে এখনো পারিশ্রমিক পায় খেলোয়াড়েরা।

১০. নিয়ম করে দেওয়া হয়েছে দুটির বেশি ফ্র্যাঞ্চাইজি লিগ খেলতে পারব না খেলোয়াড়েরা। আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটে ব্যস্ততা না থাকলে যেকোনো লিগ খেলার সুযোগ দিতে হবে।

১১. ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটের কথাই বেশি আসছে। ম্যাচের আগে অনেক সময় জেনে যাই কোন দল জিতবে কোন দল হারবে। এটা খুবই দুঃখজনক। এটা ঠিক করা খুব জরুরি। এটির সঙ্গে খেলোয়াড়ের ক্যারিয়ার জড়িয়ে। এক ম্যাচে ভালো বলে আউট হয়ে যেতে পারে একজন ব্যাটসম্যান। কিন্তু টানা যদি আম্পায়ারের বাজে সিদ্ধান্তে আউট হয়, তার ক্যারিয়ার ওখানেই শেষ হয়ে যায়। খেলোয়াড়কে উঠে আসতে এই পাইপলাইনটা ভালো করা জরুরি। এখানে আমরা নারী দলকে যুক্ত করতে পারিনি। আমাদের দ্রুত সিদ্ধান্ত নিতে হয়েছে। তাদের যদি কোনো দাবি থাকে, অবশ্যই যুক্ত করা হবে। বয়সভিত্তিক দল এখানে যোগ করছি না।
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Also a slap in the face to all who think Bangladesh has "better infrastructure" than Afghanistan just because we have been playing Tests for 20 years.

Afghanistan's training facilities in Dubai, Delhi/Noida, and Dehradun are world class. Bangladesh's are only average in Mirpur, and non-existent elsewhere (Khulna, Chittagong, Sylhet).

Afghanistan have been training in world class facilities since 2010 or so. Bangladesh without AC
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Also 11 points is a lot and looks fairly comprehensive:

Will BCB agree to all of them? I hope the players are willing to compromise eg BCB addresses most pressing 4-5 demands immediately, and then fulfills the rest within 12 months.

Cancelling an India tour will be disastrous to a team like Bangladesh. BCCI will do everything to crush the BCB with even more vigor than they attempted to crush the PCB.
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Bcb will fix this. There is no way they want to miss out India tour. India tour is the biggest revenue generating event for any board, and bcb will not mess it up.

Hasina is also in good terms with Shakib. So chances are most of the demands will be acknowledged.
Jala Yunus, BCB spokesman, said "most of the demands are being met already" and gave the example of BPL. The next BPL is a special edition and they said it would revert back to franchise system.
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