Bangladesh vs India One-off Test. Discussion

[Sylheti_Beta]

Bhai hokkol.
What should our line up be like ?

I would have wanted Rubel, Taskin and Fizz on the side for sure with one mystery spinner(do we have one ). Or at least someone who can vary length and speed of his deliveries consistently even though he may not turn the ball a country mile.

I hope Sabbir does well here with his batting. He is the guy I have my hopes on.
Shakib has been mercurial to be honest on the NZ tour, dunno if he will get a first call for an IPL berth.
Mominul also was a quiet solid presence when he got his act together.

To sum it up we need folks with a methodical and rational mindset.

[Anik SH]

I just want one single win. Nothing else..

[5tonne]

^You have to wait for a while, I am afraid.

[R0ssei]

We would need tons of runs on board to win/draw against IND. We don't get to play tests, so we don't have solid test batsman yet, specially at no. 3 and 4. To me, Mominul seems more no. 4 batsman than no. 3 type. Had high hopes for Mullah at any of these roles, he failed terribly (now I think he should be dropped). Hence, want to try with S. Nafees.

I don't consider Rubel to be a test bowler, but kept him only for his record against IND. But seriously, any 3rd seamer or Taijul (for a spinny wicket) can replace him.

This is my selection considering everyone is fit to play single test:
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Shahriar Nafees
4. Mominul Hoque
5. Mushfiqur Rahim (C+W)
6. Shakib Al Hasan
7. Sabbir Rahman
8. Mehedi Hasan
9. Rubel Hossain
10. Taskin Ahmed
11. Mustafizur Rahman

Everything will come down to 2nd inning of BD. For example, if BD bats first, this can happen:
- BAN makes 400+ in 1st inning (<1.5 day)
- IND makes 500+ in their 1st inning (3.5 day)
- BAN trail by >100 runs and needs to stand minimum 120 overs for their 2nd inning

[Tigers_eye]

My question to everyone.

Does this test count in the Test point system? Long time back, I read somewhere (Most likely Zim playing one off test) that only series is counted towards the ranking points.

[LongStop]

Originally Posted by R0ssei
We would need tons of runs on board to win/draw against IND. We don't get to play tests, so we don't have solid test batsman yet, specially at no. 3 and 4. To me, Mominul seems more no. 4 batsman than no. 3 type. Had high hopes for Mullah at any of these roles, he failed terribly (now I think he should be dropped). Hence, want to try with S. Nafees.

I don't consider Rubel to be a test bowler, but kept him only for his record against IND. But seriously, any 3rd seamer or Taijul (for a spinny wicket) can replace him.

This is my selection considering everyone is fit to play single test:
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Shahriar Nafees
4. Mominul Hoque
5. Mushfiqur Rahim (C+W)
6. Shakib Al Hasan
7. Sabbir Rahman
8. Mehedi Hasan
9. Rubel Hossain
10. Taskin Ahmed
11. Mustafizur Rahman

Everything will come down to 2nd inning of BD. For example, if BD bats first, this can happen:
- BAN makes 400+ in 1st inning (<1.5 day)
- IND makes 500+ in their 1st inning (3.5 day)
- BAN trail by >100 runs and needs to stand minimum 120 overs for their 2nd inning

To draw (forget about win) a TEST against INDIA, we have to bat all 5 days ! After having ~600 runs in our first inning, we lost the TEST against NZ. So bat all 5 days.

[LongStop]

Originally Posted by Anik SH
I just want one single win. Nothing else..

Well if your 4th generation is lucky enough, they might be able to see the win against INDIA in test.

[aklemalp]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
My question to everyone.

Does this test count in the Test point system? Long time back, I read somewhere (Most likely Zim playing one off test) that only series is counted towards the ranking points.

After you posed this question, I went to the ICC Predictor on the link below, and was playing along....Here are the scenarios:

As of now, Bangladesh are on 9th place with 62 rating points; while India are 1st with 120 RATING POINTS:

i)MATCH DRAWN- BD moves up to 64 Rating points, while India loses 1 and shifts down to 119. BD-9th, INDIA-1st

ii)INDIA WINS- BD loses 1 point and shifts down to 61 rating points, while INDIA also loses 1 rating point. BD-9th, INDIA-1st

iii)BD WINS- BD moves up to 67 rating points, while India loses 3 and drops to 117. BD-9th, INDIA-1st

Nobody loses their place in the rankings...regardless of result


LINK:http://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/...predictor/test

[Roy_1]

If India fields full strength regular squad, Bangladesh will have to play out of their skin to avoid innings defeat, draw is out of the equation. England suffered innings defeats in two consecutive tests even after repeatedly scoring 400+ in their first innings.

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by aklemalp

ii)INDIA WINS- BD loses 1 point and shifts down to 61 rating points, while INDIA also loses 1 rating point. BD-9th, INDIA-1st

LINK:http://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/...predictor/test

What sorcery is this? We lose point even after wining? It makes perfect sense now why India was reluctant to invite BD.

[Mas_UK25]

New era of rivalry started in 15 WC. I'd say this test will kick it on. I know Indian fans would claim it down, but let's just say on subcontinent conditions next 2-3 years Bangladesh will be your biggest threat, challengers, competitors especially in ODI's, whether you would want to accept it or not.


I fancy. A draw, wicket will be flat. Hope Fzz is back it will be very known conditions for him having played for SRH. Must, need Nasir Hossain back in the side too many lefties at the top, can't bat too many lefties at top, we need to mix it up. I'd like Sarkar at 3, Nasir or Sabbir at 4, Mushy 5, Sakib 6.

As for pacers, I'd go with Kamrul, Fizz, Taskin. Shakib and Miraz the spinners, Nasir with useful overs too.

[aklemalp]

Originally Posted by Roy_1
What sorcery is this? We lose point even after wining? It makes perfect sense now why India was reluctant to invite BD.

I don't know...play with the rankings predictor all want...

I understand that this doesn't make sense..probably a glitch.

Someone with a more in-depth understanding of the rankings can help us out with this...

[Mas_UK25]

It makes sense they don't invite number 9 ranked test side? But it makes sense aus to invite a number 8ranked odi side for 5 odis? . That's the reason we have disunity in the desi brotherism, "snobby attitude"

[aklemalp]

Is Shamim gonna make the journey to Hyderabad to grace his presence in the commentary box?

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by Roy_1
If India fields full strength regular squad, Bangladesh will have to play out of their skin to avoid innings defeat, draw is out of the equation. .

Agree. (Did you see BD C team playing against NZ?)

Originally Posted by Roy_1
England suffered innings defeats in two consecutive tests even after repeatedly scoring 400+ in their first innings.

By now you should know not to compare teams. We don't have bowlers of Board/Anderson/Stokes to bowl for us in the sub-continent environment. They don't have Fizz-Miraz either. Have patience and enjoy the match. I'll just leave it at that.

I did agree in the first part though.

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by Mas_UK25
New era of rivalry started in 15 WC. I'd say this test will kick it on. I know Indian fans would claim it down, but let's just say on subcontinent conditions next 2-3 years Bangladesh will be your biggest threat, challengers, competitors especially in ODI's, whether you would want to accept it or not.


I fancy. A draw, wicket will be flat. Hope Fzz is back it will be very known conditions for him having played for SRH. Must, need Nasir Hossain back in the side too many lefties at the top, can't bat too many lefties at top, we need to mix it up. I'd like Sarkar at 3, Nasir or Sabbir at 4, Mushy 5, Sakib 6.

As for pacers, I'd go with Kamrul, Fizz, Taskin. Shakib and Miraz the spinners, Nasir with useful overs too.

Many Indian fans may not agree with this but I see the point in your post, as I already mentioned in some other thread that with Pakistan going south we need a strong sub continental rival to keep the passion alive, Bangladesh is already a tough opponent in limited overs, no doubt about that, It is just that I don't think they will be able to pose enough challenges against us in test.

There is nothing snobby about my post BTW, I am just being pragmatic, Bangladesh is a damn good ODI team but in the longer format they are not equipped enough to trouble India in India.

[R0ssei]

1. !st inning target: 400+
2. 2nd inning target: 300+
3. Each of the top 7 batsmen needs to go to the ground with a mindset of scoring minimum 40 runs using as many balls as he likes.
4. Tale-enders (no. 8 to 11) need to produce runs. Target: 60+
5. Slip cordon needs to be fixed and a lot of practice. You don't want to drop Kohli's catch once.

[roman]

All I want is shommanjonok porajoy. There is no way we can come out of India with a test win.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
My question to everyone.

Does this test count in the Test point system? Long time back, I read somewhere (Most likely Zim playing one off test) that only series is counted towards the ranking points.

Yes it does. Its an official test.

We lost points due to one off loss vs ZIM.

Gained points from one off draw vs India last year.

[aklemalp]

Originally Posted by R0ssei
5. Sleep cordon needs to be fixed and a lot of practice. You don't want to drop Kohli's catch once.

Smart and creative

[al Furqaan]

If India plays a full strength side, target a draw which is achievable if the wicket is flat.

If India plays their A team, as most of the fans seem to want, we should think of a win but still target a win. Even India C team batsmen are going to nearly as good as their front line guys, in Indian conditions.

A rank turner may actually make the game closer than a flat deck.

Anxious to see what squad is declared and how much respect BCCI is willing to give. Fans wanted their A team to tour when we won the ODI series in 2015 right after the world cup.

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Agree. (Did you see BD C team playing against NZ?)
By now you should know not to compare teams. We don't have bowlers of Board/Anderson/Stokes to bowl for us in the sub-continent environment. They don't have Fizz-Miraz either. Have patience and enjoy the match. I'll just leave it at that.

I did agree in the first part though.

Please read post # 16, I will be more than pleased if Bangladesh could make this test competitive and interesting, however most probably it is going to be a one sided match considering the gap between two teams.

You are underestimating England big time here, We did not produce any turners for the Eng series, England arguably has the best batting line up in world with a very decent bowling, beating them on flat pitches requires supreme level of skills and consistency. Bangladesh will have to produce something otherworldly to draw the test.

[Vepu]

I want a turner. It will give us a sniff

[Vahroone]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
If India plays a full strength side, target a draw which is achievable if the wicket is flat.

If India plays their A team, as most of the fans seem to want, we should think of a win but still target a win. Even India C team batsmen are going to nearly as good as their front line guys, in Indian conditions.

A rank turner may actually make the game closer than a flat deck.

Anxious to see what squad is declared and how much respect BCCI is willing to give. Fans wanted their A team to tour when we won the ODI series in 2015 right after the world cup.

We're going to play our full team. Most likely, this is the line-up:

KL Rahul
M Vijay
C Pujara
V Kohli
A Rahane
K Nair
W Saha
Ashwin
Jadeja
B Kumar
M Shami

Let's hope for a good test.

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by Mas_UK25
It makes sense they don't invite number 9 ranked test side? But it makes sense aus to invite a number 8ranked odi side for 5 odis? . That's the reason we have disunity in the desi brotherism, "snobby attitude"

You are hurting my feelings now barring Pakistanis all desis are my brothers and sisters