Don`t Think Shakib can be a ATG

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
He will do nothing of harm to India as he desperately needs his IPL Contract

Dada eita pura ulta bolla tumi, actually je amader biruddhe bhalo perform kore tar i sujog pabar chance beshi, why do you think Musta got IPL contract with only a couple international matches under his belt?

Or did I just miss your sarcasm here?

[DinRaat.]

Originally Posted by Roy_1
Dada eita pura ulta bolla tumi, actually je amader biruddhe bhalo perform kore tar i sujog pabar chance beshi, why do you think Musta got IPL contract with only a couple international matches under his belt?

Or did I just miss your sarcasm here?

Shakib is not the future solution for bangladesh, he is a expired CPU fitting into a new x99 Motherboard, he is not a long term solution, mark my words

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Shakib is not the future solution for bangladesh, he is a expired CPU fitting into a new x99 Motherboard, he is not a long term solution, mark my words

He is the best that BD has ever produced, the most internationally acclaimed and recognized cricketer to have ever played for BD, no matter how much you deny it, he is the face of BD cricket to non BD cricket followers, I guess we could agree to dis agree though

[DinRaat.]

Originally Posted by Roy_1
He is the best that BD has ever produced, the most internationally acclaimed and recognized cricketer to have ever played for BD, no matter how much you deny it, he is the face of BD cricket to non BD cricket followers, I guess we could agree to dis agree though

Now, I will get alot of hate and flak for saying this, but he is a minnow basher when it comes to batting in ODIs 4 of his six centuries are against zimbabwe and canada, He`s bowling is another story though, but still good batsmen like, Finch,De Kock,Khawaja, Warner,Babar Azam can tear him to bits, if stokes played half of the matches shakib did against zimbabwe, he will be much better than Shakib is, bowls 145kph, has test double centuries and ODI ton, Stokes will overtake Shakib soon.......

[Mas_UK25]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Shakib is not the future solution for bangladesh, he is a expired CPU fitting into a new x99 Motherboard, he is not a long term solution, mark my words

Shakib was the solution, did his part. Now seems to be a heedless chicken most times especially the way he gets out be it in LOI or test. I honestly can't remember the last time a superb outswinging or inswinging ball got Shakib bowled or edged out. That shows most times he played unnecessary shots, out of the blue (reference last few test recent Eng series, for those who are wondering what I mean).

Future lies with Sabbirs, Soumyas, Littons, Mominuls, Mustafizurs, Mehedi Hasans, Mossadekks, Taskins! Last but not least Nasir Hossains (yes he is just 25 if your didnt know).

[DinRaat.]

Look at Shakibs Avg vs Top 8, excluding zimb
Aus:20.16(07-11)
Eng:24.31
India:37.91(In Bangladesh)
Pakistan:40.14
South Africa:29
West Indies:31
NZ:27

[Mas_UK25]

^What format is that in? Test or ODI or both?

[DinRaat.]

ODI

U dont want to know about away averages

[DinRaat.]

in Australia 2008-2015 7 7 0 174 63 24.85 234 74.35 0 1 0 19 2 view innings
in Bangladesh 2006-2016 91 84 14 2519 106 35.98 2979 84.55 3 18 3 235 17 view innings
in England 2010-2010 3 3 0 27 20 9.00 58 46.55 0 0 0 2 0 view innings
in India 2006-2006 3 3 1 103 67* 51.50 162 63.58 0 1 1 10 0 view innings
in Ireland 2010-2010 2 2 1 83 50 83.00 116 71.55 0 1 0 7 0 view innings
in Kenya 2006-2006 3 3 1 58 25* 29.00 92 63.04 0 0 0 9 0 view innings
in New Zealand 2007-2016 11 11 1 234 59 23.40 298 78.52 0 2 1 21 3 view innings
in Pakistan 2008-2008 5 5 0 192 108 38.40 216 88.88 1 1 1 15 0 view innings
in Scotland 2010-2010 1 1 0 15 15 15.00 20 75.00 0 0 0 0 0 view innings
in South Africa 2008-2008 2 2 0 68 51 34.00 110 61.81 0 1 0 6 0 view innings
in Sri Lanka 2007-2010 6 6 0 69 25 11.50 97 71.13 0 0 1 6 0 view innings
in West Indies 2007-2009 14 14 4 513 134* 51.30 713 71.94 1 4 1 37 5 view innings
in Zimbabwe 2006-2013 18 17 2 595 104 39.66 655 90.83 1 3 0 48 8

[Mas_UK25]

Damn disappointing averages against WI, NZ, Eng even at home. One would've thought he would do GOOD against these sides at home!!!
He does have decent average against his two fav sides though, Ind and Pk! Especially Pakistan who Shakib seems to love playing against I know most Pakistanis also like Shakib highly, most of my Brit pk friends always talk about Shakib Al Hasan when it comes to BD cricket!

[DinRaat.]

People need to move, on shakibs not the flag bearer of BD anymore, its players like Liton,Souyma,Sabbir, I just hope Shakib doesn`t hassle the board and end his career life afridi

[DinRaat.]

JADEJA


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[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by Mas_UK25
Damn disappointing averages against WI, NZ, Eng even at home. One would've thought he would do GOOD against these sides at home!!!
He does have decent average against his two fav sides though, Ind and Pk! Especially Pakistan who Shakib seems to love playing against I know most Pakistanis also like Shakib highly, most of my Brit pk friends always talk about Shakib Al Hasan when it comes to BD cricket!

Most, if not all, Non BD fans rate Shakib very highly, not limited to Ind of Pak

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Now, I will get alot of hate and flak for saying this, but he is a minnow basher when it comes to batting in ODIs 4 of his six centuries are against zimbabwe and canada, He`s bowling is another story though, but still good batsmen like, Finch,De Kock,Khawaja, Warner,Babar Azam can tear him to bits, if stokes played half of the matches shakib did against zimbabwe, he will be much better than Shakib is, bowls 145kph, has test double centuries and ODI ton, Stokes will overtake Shakib soon.......

How many times have you watched Stokes... He doesn't cross 140 often in tests forget 145

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Definitely not an ATG.

But a world class player from Bd, who makes cricket work for him, but he doesn't work for cricket. I respect that in some sense, any sports while fun is hard on the body. So might as well take as much money from it as you can and take nothing personally.

wow! i actually agree with this!

[R0ssei]

I'm not a big fan of Shakib's cricketing skills; but he is definitely a world class player and will perhaps be an ATG from Bangladesh.

He is an all-rounder for God's sake. You cannot expect him to be the top performer of the team. He can be the 2nd best. As a good all-rounder, you can expect a 50 and 2-3 wickets every now and then. If you ask me the definition of a good all-rounder, I would say a cricketer whom you cannot decide if he is a bowling all-rounder or a batting one for his stable performances. Shakib fits my definition. He is somewhat consistently producing runs and wickets for BAN.

Shakib lacks in batting technique (highly required in test cricket) and is not a big spinner of the ball. But he is very smart in bowling and score runs with flashy, improvised shots (which is not best option for test either). Besides, at no 6, what do you expect him to do? Get a century and 5 wickets all the time? However I agree that he should have matured by now after playing more than a decade for BAN.

He definitely brought lot of joy and pride for Bangladesh as he has been ranked No. 1 all-rounder in all formats. I never thought any BD cricketer play for himself, same goes with Shakib.

If there were a 2nd MoM (runner-up) award in a game, Shakib would have won all in every match he played for BAN.

[5tonne]

Does Shakib want to be one?

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by Vepu
Its high time for Shakib to retire

And who is the greatest player in the Bangladeshi side to fill up his position? I mean scoring runs and taking 5 wicket hauls over and over again?

So many spinners showed promise but none of them came close to Shakib. If he was so worthless then why do you think that all the leagues from all over the world even bother to grab him for their team?

No matter how ugly his shots looks like he is still the player who scores the 75% of the team's runs (most of the time). I said it before that Shakib is anything but selfish. I actually sometimes wish that he becomes little more selfish and value his wicket little more. A selfish player will always look for opportunity to boost his stats. Shakib with so many achievements can easily do it. But he is just plain reckless and the fact that his recklessness has given him so many success that he is least bothered in changing his style (unfortunately).

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Now, I will get alot of hate and flak for saying this, but he is a minnow basher when it comes to batting in ODIs 4 of his six centuries are against zimbabwe and canada, He`s bowling is another story though, but still good batsmen like, Finch,De Kock,Khawaja, Warner,Babar Azam can tear him to bits, if stokes played half of the matches shakib did against zimbabwe, he will be much better than Shakib is, bowls 145kph, has test double centuries and ODI ton, Stokes will overtake Shakib soon.......

So all the other greats gets to play against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe so why didn't we see any other best all rounders in the last 10 years? Too bad Shakib doesn't get to play against BD then his stats would be even greater. How many tests did Shakib play against Canada and Zimbabwe again? Didn't know Canada plays tests

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by 5tonne
Does Shakib want to be one?

No he doesn't care

[5tonne]

Originally Posted by oronnya
No he doesn't care

He said it many times that he doesn't care about personal achievements and he shouldn't. He should focus more on winning us few more matches than becoming an ATG. Pakistan's Abdur/Abdul Razzak is not an ATG but during his short career he helped Pakistan win good amount of matches.

[godzilla]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Plays For Personal Stats,
Plays for money
Plays for Himself

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How can you have Personal Stats and Plays for himself as main points highlighted and then follow it up by plays recklessly. How does that even make any sense? People who plays for stats and themselves (Anamul is a prime example or Junaid vs Pakistan chasing 300 odd) usually plays slowish while batting. Tries to keep the strike to hog the balls and so on and so forth. This man Plays for the country. You don't sit on top of the throne and be the best cricketer to emerge from a country with those attitudes.

P.S every players PLAYS for MONEY!Cricket Players do it by playing cricket, and you do it by working or wtv way you earn your income. Seriously now ...