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June 6, 2009, 03:01 AM
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way too early to predict... it could be anyone's game
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June 6, 2009, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by yaseer
really? i thought gr champ is A1..........if not then my whole theory of groups is wrong.
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Yeah, the format is totally different. A1 and A2 has the same value. The goal is to just reach the super 8. Then after, you can apply the previous calculations.
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June 6, 2009, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tonoy
Yeah, the format is totally different. A1 and A2 has the same value. The goal is to just reach the super 8. Then after, you can apply the previous calculations.
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yeah....thnx for the clarification....
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June 6, 2009, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nahaz
This is how the T20 World Cup line-up was meant to look like in the second Round: India, England, Australia and New Zealand in one group, and Bangladesh, Pakistan, South Africa and the winner of the clash between Sri Lanka and West Indies in the other. After some drama, one of Australia and South Africa are proabably going to take the trophy home.
Netherlands winning the opening T20 has added a whole new dimension to this World Cup. Suddenly nothing can be taken for granted anymore! Group C-consisting of Pakistan, England and Netherlands- is truly alive. England would have to avoid loss at all costs, and this could mean Pakistan missing out. Group C has always been one to watch. With Australia being grouped with both WI and Sri Lanka, one has to miss out. dare I say, the Aussies are going through, and WI will try to make amends for the last WC. Maybe Sri lankan fans will have to miss out this time, given their poor practice round performances. Group A and D seem pretty straight forward. New Zealand and South Africa both have too much experience in T20 to lose to Scotland in the preliminaries. India and Bangladesh should both go through, unless Ireland manages to cause another upset. They have defeated Bangladesh in the last World Cup who in turn have knocked India out of the same tournament in the same style. Tonight's clash between the two cricket-crazy crazy nations should be a matter of pride, but not much more if the Irish do not end up doing something "Irish".
Let us look at Super eights now. Bangladesh, Netherlands, New Zealand and West Indies could all be in there. None are expected to win, but three of them could end up in the semis. Bangladesh could end up in the same group as Netherlands, West Indies and South Africa. Netherlands can be safely dealt with if not taken lightly. West Indies , on the other hand, are another beast altogether. If Chris Gayle fires up, it is very hard for any country to stop him. Much like Bangladesh, however, both him and the rest of the batting order are volatile, so an upset is not out of the question. With Bangladesh having their own T20 specialists in the form of Mohammed Ashraful and Tamim Iqbal, West Indian bowlers will have some work to do if these two manage to get away. Just ask the 2007 T20 team what Ashraful can do. He was one of the two reasons why their tournament was over in their first outing. Having defeated them once, there is no reason why Bangladesh cannot defeat them again. Both the teams have changed since then, and it could be a pivotal matches of the round. If West Indies and Netherlands both perform predictably in the other two matches, Bangladesh should be safely into the semi-finals. New Zealand are another team Bangladesh will fancy their chances against. They have come close to defeating them in the practice T20, and like them, New Zealand also has a team still in the process of rebuilding. If Brendon Mc Callum does not get away to a flier, we're in for a close one. With New Zealand's Achilees heel in batting often being spin, which coincidentally is Bangladesh's strength in bowling, New Zealand could choke in the middle overs with or without McCullum's explosive start. they are however a more experienced group in the bowling department than Bangladesh or West Indies.
India might be really excited to be in a relatively "easy" group for the first round, peril awaits them in the next. South Africa, Australia and England are in the same group, and none would bow down to the 2007 Champions. England will likely capitulate, but beating either of the two other title contenders will not be easy. Australia are more likely than south Africa to slip up, but being in the seaming conditions of England, they will be more likely to utilise the conditions and win the most watched super-eight match of the tournament. Sehwag will roar, but would not find it as easy to dominate Bracken and co as he did against some of the Indian bowlers in the IPL. Australia however will not have Symonds, but that should be a blessing in disguise. Ponting, Clarke and Haddin could be more than a handful for Ishant and Co. Australia do not have an actual spin department, unlike South Africa, but they do have a strong pace bowling battery. In the end, it could come down to which team truly exploits its own batting powers to the fullest.
In the end, the tournament will go to one of the three top test nations, but we all hope that a team such as Bangladesh will cause a few upsets and wriggle their way to the final four of the tournament. That would make the next tournament grouping even more interesting!
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Apni tho vai soupner(dream) seemana barie dilen. Ekhon protom round theke biday nile heart e problem hoye jabe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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June 6, 2009, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rafi_mc69
Apni tho vai soupner(dream) seemana barie dilen. Ekhon protom round theke biday nile heart e problem hoye jabe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey, all I am dreaming of is one or two upsets and we are trough to a WC semi-final. When was the last time that ever happened? We don't even need to win today! If all that stops us is beating WI just like last time, then why not dream
But yes, hope we win against Ireland. I'm sure we win. But I have absolute respect in the Irish..and in love with the Dutch. Let this be the underdog's tournament. A preview to our win in 2015 WC..I'll be cheering Bangladesh in the final
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June 6, 2009, 06:07 AM
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Vai, ei thread je porbe, ter matha sesh. A lot of Calculations.
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June 6, 2009, 07:19 AM
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yea... and all make sense... i'd love to see banglad3sh in the semis... should be one heck of a tournament then....
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June 6, 2009, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by yaseer
Following is the most likely way to form groups in the next round. Swap Bangladesh with India if we beat India today.
1) India, Australia, NewZealand, England/Netherlands.
2) Bangladesh, Pakistan, South Africa, Srilanka/West Indies
So, either way we really have to play well to go to the Semis.
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No swaping even if India loses today. S8 groupings are fixed irrespective of position in the group.
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June 6, 2009, 07:30 AM
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Too much even before a single game! Lets win against Ireland and then talk, there would be enough time to think for S8.
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Originally Posted by BANFAN
No swaping even if India loses today. S8 groupings are fixed irrespective of position in the group.
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Thats right.
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June 6, 2009, 07:52 AM
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Dear nahaz,
South Africa is D2, NZ is D1. This doesn't change.
Which is trouble for India. Cause Australia, South Africa and India in one group. Doesn't matter who comes from group B (England/Holland).
On the other hand, BD is with NZ, SL/WI, Pak if they make it to the second round. Chances are much better here.
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June 6, 2009, 08:11 PM
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India will be through to the super eight and semi finals and so will the Windians.
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June 6, 2009, 11:51 PM
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How this predictions are going on? I want to learn. Koshto kore khela dekhte hobe na.
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June 6, 2009, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Dear nahaz,
South Africa is D2, NZ is D1. This doesn't change.
Which is trouble for India. Cause Australia, South Africa and India in one group. Doesn't matter who comes from group B (England/Holland).
On the other hand, BD is with NZ, SL/WI, Pak if they make it to the second round. Chances are much better here.
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Ya, that's exactly what I said. Must be someone else that thought otherwise..anyway, all good.
See, Windies are very likely to go to next round now..I'm hoping australia goes through as well..if they do, India's not going to semis. I'd really hate lankans to go through, coz then they'd prob hammer us since they got a couple of "minnow/bangladeshi" bashers in the team. And they're no chance for going to finals either.
If Windies and Netherlands/Pakistan both fall in our group, I'll be delighted . Tho if Chris gayle gets away...anyway, can't think negative. We beat them once, and we'll do it again,hopefully.
Gayle's awesome tho, isn't he?
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June 6, 2009, 11:59 PM
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How this predictions are going on? I want to learn. Koshto kore khela dekhte hobe na.
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I was just exploring one possiblities and thinking of our chances.. obviously we have to actually win two games to go to semis, but if Netherlands goes through to our group ,we'd only need one upset to go through to a WC T20 semis. Its so ridiculous its funny.
And Indian reporters and some fans always think they're the world champions. That's why it'd be funny if they left b4 semis again. Aussies and SA are both in their group so I like my chances there.
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June 7, 2009, 12:16 AM
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I was just exploring one possiblities and thinking of our chances.. obviously we have to actually win two games to go to semis, but if Netherlands goes through to our group ,we'd only need one upset to go through to a WC T20 semis. Its so ridiculous its funny.
And Indian reporters and some fans always think they're the world champions. That's why it'd be funny if they left b4 semis again. Aussies and SA are both in their group so I like my chances there.
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Hey, I was joking.
Please dont call upset If we beat a Test Team. I think in T-20, you cannot call anything upset.
Indians are really World Champion in T-20. So we cannot blame their media & supporters untill a new team become Champion in 21 June, 2009 at Lords.
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June 7, 2009, 12:18 AM
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bhai re bhai..age amra second round e giya nai..tarpor aie shopno deikhen..
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June 7, 2009, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bangladesh_sy
bhai re bhai..age amra second round e giya nai..tarpor aie shopno deikhen..
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You dream for a tank, you get pistol. You dream for a pistol, you get nada.
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June 7, 2009, 02:17 AM
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First beat Ireland than wait India to beat Ireland than our 2nd round is sure otherwise...........Bye from the tournament.
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June 7, 2009, 06:06 AM
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Looking at all the teams, one can conclude that this trophy is India's to win again. Dhoni is a smart captain and he has a top class young 20/20 team, batters, bowlers, fielders and they know how to finish a game. Anyhow, they will be challenged by South Africa.
Mentally, there is no comparison between the BD and Indian team, BD has good players, but 80% of winning a match is in the mind. I watched the Dutchies and one can see the intent and determination on their faces and they deserved to win that match against England. I hope the BD team is not going to be complacent against Ireland. Complacency has made them lose games against Associates.
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June 7, 2009, 08:34 AM
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Lets just beat Ireland, then we can dream big.
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June 7, 2009, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BD-Shardul
You dream for a tank, you get pistol. You dream for a pistol, you get nada.
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Very unrealistic dream. You should atleast be able to get a chinese or russian tank, or an APC. A begger shouldn't dream to be Bill Gates; then his career is finished even as a begger.
Dreams must match your abilities. BD ofcourse is capable of going to S8 and can dream to make semis after that.
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With regards to opening post title:
Why don't you want India in Semis? I can understand if you want Bangladesh in Semi-Final?
But why hate India reaching Semis?
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June 7, 2009, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by senman
With regards to opening post title:
Why don't you want India in Semis? I can understand if you want Bangladesh in Semi-Final?
But why hate India reaching Semis?
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Why dnt u look into ur some of cricketforum and try to find out why we hate india to go semis !? Indian fan didnt leave any insulting, disgusting comments about our team, our country or even religion. But i m more than sure that u wont find any such vulgar comments about India in this thread. Moreover, i think, its the behaviour of indian media, fans which made us to support against India other than any reasons.
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June 7, 2009, 11:00 AM
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i don't know about others but i watch cricket because i enjoy watching good cricket.. so i have no problem with who ever goes in to semi final and wins the tournament.. off course i have my favorite but that doesn't mean i have to hate the rest.. as for why most of the bangladeshi's hate india..asdda is completely right.. but thats not how it should be though.. we should not judge an entire country based on what some people say on forums, and what journalists write on paper.. we have some well wishers from India in our forum..Bharat, Bengaliprince, Senman and many more..
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June 7, 2009, 12:52 PM
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Hay re fans.. amader ondho fans...why not BD going to Finals and become the champion?
Lets just hope that we don't get beaten tomorrow by the IRish. THe way Ashraful, Shakib and Tamim sacrifice their wickets, it felt like almost the match was fixed - not saying that it was. But if these 3/4 play in the same manner, we will have no chance against the Irish.
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