Bangladesh tipped to go to semis, but not India!

[nahaz]

This is how the T20 World Cup line-up was meant to look like in the second Round: India, England, Australia and New Zealand in one group, and Bangladesh, Pakistan, South Africa and the winner of the clash between Sri Lanka and West Indies in the other. After some drama, one of Australia and South Africa are proabably going to take the trophy home.

Netherlands winning the opening T20 has added a whole new dimension to this World Cup. Suddenly nothing can be taken for granted anymore! Group C-consisting of Pakistan, England and Netherlands- is truly alive. England would have to avoid loss at all costs, and this could mean Pakistan missing out. Group C has always been one to watch. With Australia being grouped with both WI and Sri Lanka, one has to miss out. dare I say, the Aussies are going through, and WI will try to make amends for the last WC. Maybe Sri lankan fans will have to miss out this time, given their poor practice round performances. Group A and D seem pretty straight forward. New Zealand and South Africa both have too much experience in T20 to lose to Scotland in the preliminaries. India and Bangladesh should both go through, unless Ireland manages to cause another upset. They have defeated Bangladesh in the last World Cup who in turn have knocked India out of the same tournament in the same style. Tonight's clash between the two cricket-crazy crazy nations should be a matter of pride, but not much more if the Irish do not end up doing something "Irish".

Let us look at Super eights now. Bangladesh, Netherlands, New Zealand and West Indies could all be in there. None are expected to win, but three of them could end up in the semis. Bangladesh could end up in the same group as Netherlands, West Indies and South Africa. Netherlands can be safely dealt with if not taken lightly. West Indies , on the other hand, are another beast altogether. If Chris Gayle fires up, it is very hard for any country to stop him. Much like Bangladesh, however, both him and the rest of the batting order are volatile, so an upset is not out of the question. With Bangladesh having their own T20 specialists in the form of Mohammed Ashraful and Tamim Iqbal, West Indian bowlers will have some work to do if these two manage to get away. Just ask the 2007 T20 team what Ashraful can do. He was one of the two reasons why their tournament was over in their first outing. Having defeated them once, there is no reason why Bangladesh cannot defeat them again. Both the teams have changed since then, and it could be a pivotal matches of the round. If West Indies and Netherlands both perform predictably in the other two matches, Bangladesh should be safely into the semi-finals. New Zealand are another team Bangladesh will fancy their chances against. They have come close to defeating them in the practice T20, and like them, New Zealand also has a team still in the process of rebuilding. If Brendon Mc Callum does not get away to a flier, we're in for a close one. With New Zealand's Achilees heel in batting often being spin, which coincidentally is Bangladesh's strength in bowling, New Zealand could choke in the middle overs with or without McCullum's explosive start. they are however a more experienced group in the bowling department than Bangladesh or West Indies.

India might be really excited to be in a relatively "easy" group for the first round, peril awaits them in the next. South Africa, Australia and England are in the same group, and none would bow down to the 2007 Champions. England will likely capitulate, but beating either of the two other title contenders will not be easy. Australia are more likely than south Africa to slip up, but being in the seaming conditions of England, they will be more likely to utilise the conditions and win the most watched super-eight match of the tournament. Sehwag will roar, but would not find it as easy to dominate Bracken and co as he did against some of the Indian bowlers in the IPL. Australia however will not have Symonds, but that should be a blessing in disguise. Ponting, Clarke and Haddin could be more than a handful for Ishant and Co. Australia do not have an actual spin department, unlike South Africa, but they do have a strong pace bowling battery. In the end, it could come down to which team truly exploits its own batting powers to the fullest.

In the end, the tournament will go to one of the three top test nations, but we all hope that a team such as Bangladesh will cause a few upsets and wriggle their way to the final four of the tournament. That would make the next tournament grouping even more interesting!

Nahaz Chowdhury

[Naimul_Hd]

Bangladesh should be safely into the semi-finals!

Alhamdulillahhh !!! ameen !

[wiseshah]

amen

gelei holo

[auntu]

Nahaz bhai is this ur writing?
Nice writing bhai..

[BANFAN]

nahaz, your entire thing is based on Eng making it to super 8 insead of Pak. I don't think that will happen. Very unlikely. Rather Eng is 99% out of S8.

if Eng is out, we don't have NL in our group. other group will enjoy their presence.

[Murad]

England out.. India will be happy!

Pakistan out.. We are happy

But I don't think any of the above is happening!

[al-Sagar]

england now have to beat pakistan and beat them comprehensively

[hoodlum]

if we reach the super 8s we wont get the netherlands

[Rabz]

Inshallah we will make it to the semis this time.
The writings on the wall.

But lets first deal with India and Ireland.

[cricket_king]

Woah man we are going so overboard with this 'confidence' thing.

I'd prefer England not making it to the super 8s. In front of their own home crowd, it'd be hilarious if they didn't even qualify for the super 8s. And if we get through to the next round, and like so many of us are expecting, the semis, it would really be a kick in the behind for the British media.

[yaseer]

Following is the most likely way to form groups in the next round. Swap Bangladesh with India if we beat India today.

1) India, Australia, NewZealand, England/Netherlands.
2) Bangladesh, Pakistan, South Africa, Srilanka/West Indies

So, either way we really have to play well to go to the Semis.

[auntu]

So if the Dutchmen step in the super 8 they won't be in our group?
We have to beat PAK then, right?

[yaseer]

I do not think Netherlands gonna be the group champion by beating Pakis. So, to have any chance to get Netherlands is next stage, we must beat India today.

For this scenario, I did not like Netherlands beating England yesterday. Because it has become easier for India to go Semis as they are likely to have Netherlands in their group.

Hope Bangladesh can trash India today and grab the easier group.

[cricket_king]

Originally Posted by auntu
So if the Dutchmen step in the super 8 they won't be in our group?
We have to beat PAK then, right?

Yeah seems to be the case - that will make things a little harder.

[yaseer]

Originally Posted by auntu
So if the Dutchmen step in the super 8 they won't be in our group?
We have to beat PAK then, right?

Yes Auntu bhai......Dutch der group champion hote hobe Pak er sathe place swap korte hole.......which is unlikely.......tobe amra jodi aj jite jai......taile Dutch der peye jabo.......

Asole Dutch ra aste na parlei bhalo....amra jodi ajke India ke harai...Inshallah England keu haraite parbo.....but dutch ra asle khamakha oi group ta weak hoye jai ar India er jonno subidha hoye jai.

[cricket_king]

Originally Posted by yaseer
Following is the most likely way to form groups in the next round. Swap Bangladesh with India if we beat India today.

1) India, Australia, NewZealand, England/Netherlands.
2) Bangladesh, Pakistan, South Africa, Srilanka/West Indies

So, either way we really have to play well to go to the Semis.

I thought South Africa and Australia would be placed in the same group =\

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by yaseer
Following is the most likely way to form groups in the next round. Swap Bangladesh with India if we beat India today.

1) India, Australia, NewZealand, England/Netherlands.
2) Bangladesh, Pakistan, South Africa, Srilanka/West Indies

So, either way we really have to play well to go to the Semis.

Shouldn't be ...
2) Bangladesh, Pakistan, New Zealand, Sri Lnaka/WI?

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by cricket_king
I thought South Africa and Australia would be placed in the same group =\

Yes, I think so too...

[nahaz]

Originally Posted by auntu
Nahaz bhai is this ur writing?
Nice writing bhai..

Thanks for that, Auntu..really appreciate it.must confess, could have been a bit better. But tried to keep it semi-professional. Just want some Indian fans to see this and panic Any chance Miraz bhai can edit this and send to cricinfo as an alternative wacky idea? Prob not...

[yaseer]

Lets predict the Group champions and runner-ups:
Group Champs: India (A1), Pakistand (B1), Australia (C1), South Africa (D1)
Group Runner-ups: Bangladesh (A2), England/Netherlands (B2), SRI/WI (C2), NZ (D2)

Now Next stage groups:
1) A1, C1, B2, D2
2) A2, C2, B1, D1

So, from the prediction it becomes:
India-Australia-Eng/Neth-NZ
BD-SRI/WI-PAK-SA

It can change if prediction is not right. But the format is the one.

[Murad]

Originally Posted by yaseer
Lets predict the Group champions and runner-ups:
Group Champs: India (A1), Pakistand (B1), Australia (C1), South Africa (D1)
Group Runner-ups: Bangladesh (A2), England/Netherlands (B2), SRI/WI (C2), NZ (D2)

Now Next stage groups:
1) A1, C1, B2, D2
2) A2, C2, B1, D1

So, from the prediction it becomes:
India-Australia-Eng/Neth-NZ
BD-SRI/WI-PAK-SA

It can change if prediction is not right. But the format is the one.

India - A1	Pakistan - B1	Australia - C1	New Zealand- D1
Bangladesh - A2	England - B2	Sri Lanka - C2	South Africa - D2
Ireland	Associate 1	West Indies	Associate 2

http://cricket.yahoo.com/cricket/ser...series_id=1145

[nahaz]

Originally Posted by yaseer
I do not think Netherlands gonna be the group champion by beating Pakis. So, to have any chance to get Netherlands is next stage, we must beat India today..

A1= India, A2=Bd, A3= Irish B1=Pak, B2= Eng, B3= Netherlands
C1=Aus, C2=Lanka, C3= WI D1=NZ, D2=SA, D3=Scots

A2, B1,C2& D1are in same group.
If a A3/B3/C3/D3 goes to next round, it automatically takes place of the team that misses out. Thus If Pakistan gets kicked out, Netherland is B1, else if England gets kicked out, they're B2. We're A2 long as we go to next round.

My article's not much based on Netherland going through at all. If they aren't in same group as us, then it just means we have to beat WI/Lanka+ NZ. Now I already told you why we have a good chance against both WI and NZ. I can also tell you we have a real good chance against Pakistan. Only problem would be if Sri Lanka goes through. Then we have to beat two pretty though teams and Sri Lankans are our bogeys. TTherefore, my article's more based on WI beating the Lankans in a sense.

India have no chance of going to the semis, in my opinion, unless they pull it off against Australia. So we're not gonna be the only ones needing to be praying for things to go our way. We have about as much chance as them:p. Ok, maybe 20% compared to 30%

[tonoy]

Originally Posted by yaseer
Following is the most likely way to form groups in the next round. Swap Bangladesh with India if we beat India today.

1) India, Australia, NewZealand, England/Netherlands.
2) Bangladesh, Pakistan, South Africa, Srilanka/West Indies

So, either way we really have to play well to go to the Semis.

No dude, if we beat India, we would still remain A2. The only way for it to change is if you lose your position.

[tonoy]

Originally Posted by nahaz
A1= India, A2=Bd, A3= Irish B1=Pak, B2= Eng, B3= Netherlands
C1=Aus, C2=Lanka, C3= WI D1=NZ, D2=SA, D3=Scots

A2, B1,C2& D1are in same group.
If a A3/B3/C3/D3 goes to next round, it automatically takes place of the team that misses out. Thus If Pakistan gets kicked out, Netherland is B1, else if England gets kicked out, they're B2. We're A2 long as we go to next round.

My article's not much based on Netherland going through at all. If they aren't in same group as us, then it just means we have to beat WI/Lanka+ NZ. Now I already told you why we have a good chance against both WI and NZ. I can also tell you we have a real good chance against Pakistan. Only problem would be if Sri Lanka goes through. Then we have to beat two pretty though teams and Sri Lankans are our bogeys. TTherefore, my article's more based on WI beating the Lankans in a sense.

India have no chance of going to the semis, in my opinion, unless they pull it off against Australia. So we're not gonna be the only ones needing to be praying for things to go our way. We have about as much chance as them:p. Ok, maybe 20% compared to 30%

Well put.

[yaseer]

Originally Posted by tonoy
No dude, if we beat India, we would still remain A2. The only way for it to change is if you lose your position.

really? i thought gr champ is A1..........if not then my whole theory of groups is wrong.