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April 13, 2006, 02:53 PM
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Rafiq bhai: Looking at Kapali's dismal records, I think he will never ever, ever get another chance with the national team, specially if he converts to Islam. That would be the end of his miserable career. How could you have suggested a suicidal thing like that!
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April 13, 2006, 02:58 PM
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Rafiq and pilot are not the solution... only three candidate I see are ash, shahriar nafees and rajin.... rajin was already vc for bangladesh for sometime... so they should choose one of these three and go along with him.... rajin would be a good choice but he just came back into the side.... not sure about ash's maturity... his batting atleast doesn't show that he is getting matured... shahriar nafees is another good choice
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April 13, 2006, 03:03 PM
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can someone remind me how on earth kapali's religion came into the topic in the first place? who on earth suggested (first) that he should convert? is this pakistan - what the hell is wrong with you guys?!!!
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April 13, 2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sadi
Rafiq and pilot are not the solution... only three candidate I see are ash, shahriar nafees and rajin.... rajin was already vc for bangladesh for sometime... so they should choose one of these three and go along with him.... rajin would be a good choice but he just came back into the side.... not sure about ash's maturity... his batting atleast doesn't show that he is getting matured... shahriar nafees is another good choice
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Agree, except that I don't think its right time to think about Bashar's replacement. Even if it is, there is no better performer in the team to take over (don't create a ZIM by bringing a novice Taibu to captaincy).
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April 13, 2006, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by billah
Rafiq bhai: Looking at Kapali's dismal records, I think he will never ever, ever get another chance with the national team, specially if he converts to Islam.
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I am baffled at this comment! Where the heck did it come from? I seriously pity the mentality of people if his religion is a cause for favouritism or disdain. I never want that BD team is going to be so myopic as Pakistans. Lojjajonok bepar!
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April 13, 2006, 07:26 PM
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Going back to the topic, Yes I do think Bashar is not a good captain. But is he replaceable now? No. Simply because all the choices have been tried and there is no source for atleast another 5 years and atleast till the world cup. His captaincy should last till then and he should be given his ultimate test only then. Till then, Bashar's captaincy... Let's not question it at all.
That also means a lot of things. The next captain will know what is expected from him and the others around him will know as well. Bangladesh team does not have the luxury of a bad-boy-ready-to-take-on-anybody-anyway captain. Bashar is easily the most loved, respected and his whole team is loyal to him. You can judge yourself from their faces. The whole team just adores him and they will listen to him and is whole-heartedly behind him. So the unity can not be questioned. He is by far the most successful captain, and the best till now. But I know for sure one thing, there is a greater one to come.
However, yes after some time he has to go from captaincy. Under him, our team will not be great. Under him we will not take risk. Under him the team will always be laid back, a bit relaxed, and not develop never-die attitude. Hate me if you want, but he lacks the rough,daring,innovative, competitive attitude that is so badly needed in a successful captain. He just simply lacks those skills.
I guess one of the Mash, Ash, Abir will take over. Most probably Abir is the best choice and the safest. But Ash and Mash are gambles, and both of them fit so well to the idea of an aggressive captain we need so much. But someone has to take over sooner or later. I hope the fans and selectors realise that Bashar was good upto one point, now we need to go higher than that.
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April 13, 2006, 09:15 PM
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I hope the fans and selectors realise that Bashar was good upto one point, now we need to go higher than that.
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spot on...bashar was a good captain until very recently. he was the best batsman (statistically) and so at least lead by example on the field.
if you look at our cricketing history, there are roughly 4 phases. each phase requires a different captain based on our capabilities.
in phase 1, until ICC championship in 97, we were competive and need a good captain.
in phase 2, which was from 1997 up to the home series against india in 2004, we were generally a very poor team and it didnt matter what our captain did. our main objective was damage control. so tactical errors or passiveness was not a burner for us. as someone posted earlier on this thread i think, we were too bad of a team for it to really matter what field setting we had, or what bowling changes were made. it didn't really matter.
in phase 3, which was from late 2004 to the very recent past, we were a team on the up. we were capable of competing against anyone, anywhere, anytime, but were also capable of embarassing implosions. for these scenarios, we needed a captain who played it safe and went the conservative route. best example, the Cardiff win against these same Ozzies. had bashar gambled and gone for the kill after OZ were 9-2, it is highly probable that they would have piled on a bigger total than 249. with tapash and nazmul who bowled as loosely as they did, it is highly possible that they would have gone 300-9 instead of 249-5. that game, we could have chased a maximum of 265 in all likelyhood. so bashar's defensive tactics were appreciated. at least by me. this is a big reason why bashar has 12 ODI wins, and 1 test draw as opposed to any of his predecessors (other reason is that bashar's teams have been far better than any other BD outfit).
phase 4: now however, we have been situations were we could really tighten the noose. in lanka when we had em 48-4, then again in BD when we had em 43-4, we let them off the hook. and of course OZ at 93-6.
at least in the 2nd innings bashar did his job well yesterday. but he prolly will let pressure let up in the 2nd test, if we create any.
problem is that, we don't have any captains other than him. perhaps rafique, but that might distract from his batting/bowling. ppl mentioned that pilot was our best captain (he just let a terribly inept team). how would pilot be?
but i think, we should go with bashar until after WC 07 and then try to find a solution or at least groom the replacement.
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April 13, 2006, 10:35 PM
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but i think, we should go with bashar until after WC 07 and then try to find a solution or at least groom the replacement.
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Yes, talk about Bashar's captaincy replacement after world cup.
INMO, never think Ash as captain, unless he become a REAL cricketer. Nafees is a good choice, but not sure about Rajin. And certainly no more old name please, we need new blood as captain.
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April 13, 2006, 11:39 PM
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Alright already, Bashar is not a good captain anymore. Let's fire him from the post.
Any taker, please raise your hand, else hold your tongue.
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April 14, 2006, 04:58 AM
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SN would be the best choice fot captaincy. He is a smart man and i m confident , he will be a much attacking captain than bashar.
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April 18, 2006, 01:47 AM
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For me the big question is Why he didn't let aftab bowl ? Why?
He is a mysterious captain.
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