Your XI for Hyderabad Test

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by Neel Here
How is Pant's wicket keeping ? I keep hearing about how great a batsman he is, no one talks about the most important stuff, his keeping.

forget his batting, with his keeping alone dhoni got us wkts out of nowhere, almost one every match. we have enough batters, but the replacement keeper has to be as good.

Insane batsman, average keeper, he is only 19, should be given a test cap, Dhoni also did not exactly set the stage on fire when he was 19, international exposure often does wonder to a blooming sportsman

[Only1raz]

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Mominul Haque
4. Mushfiqur Rahim
5. Mosaddek Hossain
6. Shakib Al Hasan
7. Shabbir Rahman
8. Mehedi Hasan Miraz
9. Mohammad Shahid/Taijul Islam
10. Taskin Ahmed
11. Mustafizur Rahman


No Mahmudullah Riyad. Don't want this guy anywhere near the Test team

[Only1raz]

Originally Posted by Gowza
I really think Abu hider and Mohammad saifuddin should be in consideration. I don't have any problem with the other fast bowlers named but is babu really a better prospect than hider as a bowler? And is he really better than saifuddin as an all rounder?

As far as shahid is he still injured? Because it looks like a lot of other pacers have really jumped over him in the queue.

I think Abu Jayed should have been selected

[Nafi]

Mahmudullah dropped everywhere. I still have faith. And i dont think indian super trundlers, yadav and shami will be threatening to him on an indian pitch. Dropping kayes because his test performance is just not good enough.


1. Tamim
2. Sarkar
3. Mominul
4. Mushfiqur
5. Mahmudullah
6. Shakib
7. Sabbir
8. Miraz
9. Rabbi/ taijul
10. Taskin Ahmed /rabbi
11. Mustafizur

[Gowza]

since 1st January 2014 mominul has averaged 51, shakib and imrul 49, tamim 42, imrul 41. In this same period riyad has averaged 29.2.

Out of that group he's the only one not to have scored a century in that period, the others have all scored at least 2.

He also has less 50s than all of them bar imrul who has 3 compared to Riyad's 6 and mushy who equals him on 6.

At some point you have to say enough is enough. If riyad is good enough he'll make his way back into the team but I think it's time to give someone else an opportunity.

[Tigers_eye]

Answer me: (Are they going to change their approach? no.)

Two words.

"Labh ki?"

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by Gowza
since 1st January 2014 mominul has averaged 51, shakib and imrul 49, tamim 42, imrul 41. In this same period riyad has averaged 29.2.

Out of that group he's the only one not to have scored a century in that period, the others have all scored at least 2.

He also has less 50s than all of them bar imrul who has 3 compared to Riyad's 6 and mushy who equals him on 6.

At some point you have to say enough is enough. If riyad is good enough he'll make his way back into the team but I think it's time to give someone else an opportunity.

+ He was dropped from the test squad once.
+ He didn't change his ways of getting out and the timing of the out.
+ Fielding declined immensely.
+ He was moved around the lineup just to keep him in the team when he continuously failed at each position.

[Neel Here]

Originally Posted by Gowza
since 1st January 2014 mominul has averaged 51, shakib and imrul 49, tamim 42, imrul 41. In this same period riyad has averaged 29.2.

Out of that group he's the only one not to have scored a century in that period, the others have all scored at least 2.

He also has less 50s than all of them bar imrul who has 3 compared to Riyad's 6 and mushy who equals him on 6.

At some point you have to say enough is enough. If riyad is good enough he'll make his way back into the team but I think it's time to give someone else an opportunity.

I keep hearing Riyad should be dropped but is there any alternative player who picks himself on performance alone ? any stand out ?
as they say class is permanent, form is not. this guy definitely has the ability.

@Nafi, the "super trundlers" average in the mid to high 140 k's and comfortably outbowled the vaunted english pace attack composed of broad, anderson et al on placid Indian pitches.

[Neel Here]

Originally Posted by Roy_1
Insane batsman, average keeper, he is only 19, should be given a test cap, Dhoni also did not exactly set the stage on fire when he was 19, international exposure often does wonder to a blooming sportsman

the caveat being, not everyone anyone can be dhoni. he was a once in a lifetime player. and mark my words, India would miss his keeping skills even more than it misses his batting skills, unless we get a good enough alternative.

I am OK with going for a so-so WK for LOI's but not for tests. dismissals mean hell of a lot more in tests than in LOI's. one missed chance can really hurt you. it can be the difference between winning a test and losing it.
I still remember parthiv preventing a match & series win against australia in sydney with his horrible keeping. more than a decade later his keeping is still awful, as we saw in the england series.

however good the batting may be, test WK position should not come at the expense of keeping abilities.

btw, did you watch today's irani trophy match ? absolute gun performance from wriddhiman saha in 4th innings after ROI were 63/4.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/irani-cu...h/1053705.html
he has done that time and again, he saved our skin in WI too ! he is also an above avg keeper. he deserves a place in the side for sometime.

right now pant should play only in LOI's if dhoni vacates the spot. we shouldn't think of him for tests unless he shows marked improvement in keeping standards.

[iDumb]

No RIYAD IN TEST and I am happy.

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by Neel Here
the caveat being, not everyone anyone can be dhoni. he was a once in a lifetime player. and mark my words, India would miss his keeping skills even more than it misses his batting skills, unless we get a good enough alternative.

I am OK with going for a so-so WK for LOI's but not for tests. dismissals mean hell of a lot more in tests than in LOI's. one missed chance can really hurt you. it can be the difference between winning a test and losing it.
I still remember parthiv preventing a match & series win against australia in sydney with his horrible keeping. more than a decade later his keeping is still awful, as we saw in the england series.

however good the batting may be, test WK position should not come at the expense of keeping abilities.

btw, did you watch today's irani trophy match ? absolute gun performance from wriddhiman saha in 4th innings after ROI were 63/4.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/irani-cu...h/1053705.html
he has done that time and again, he saved our skin in WI too ! he is also an above avg keeper. he deserves a place in the side for sometime.

right now pant should play only in LOI's if dhoni vacates the spot. we shouldn't think of him for tests unless he shows marked improvement in keeping standards.

Agree with you on most parts, however I still think we don't have to be so puritan against Bangladesh, we could certainly field an A team with Pant being WK, just to give him and some others a taste of international cricket, also we do need a good back up WK considering perthiv is an absolute garbage. If BCCI was serious about this test, I am sure it would not be limited to only one, so I am pretty sure large scale experiments are going to take place during team selection and won't be surprised to see half a dozen new faces.

[Roy_1]

Originally Posted by Nafi
Mahmudullah dropped everywhere. I still have faith. And i dont think indian super trundlers, yadav and shami will be threatening to him on an indian pitch.

I am pretty sure our "Super Trundlers" will comfortably outbowl your bowling wonders irrespective of the pitch given, you don't have to believe me now, I will quote you back when it happens.

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by Neel Here
I keep hearing Riyad should be dropped but is there any alternative player who picks himself on performance alone ? any stand out ?
as they say class is permanent, form is not. this guy definitely has the ability.

@Nafi, the "super trundlers" average in the mid to high 140 k's and comfortably outbowled the vaunted english pace attack composed of broad, anderson et al on placid Indian pitches.

Class is permanent, form is temporary

Sucks for Ullah he doesn't have class nor does he have form...

What ability has he shown you in test cricket in a decade of playing test cricket, he has 1 hundred, averages 30

Others...

Nasir, Nurul, anamul, mossadek

I'd go Nurul

Tamim
Imrul
Mominul
Mushfiq
Shakib
Sabbir
Nurul
Shahid
Mehedi
Taskin/Taijul
Mustafizur/Taijul

[Tiger444]

1. Tamim
2. Imrul
3. Mominul
4. Mushy (C)
5. Shakib
6. Shabbir
7. Nurul (WK)
8. Miraz
9. Kamrul
10. Taskin
11. Roy

Subs
12. Mosaddek
13. Soumya
14. Taijul
15. Jayed

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Neel Here
I keep hearing Riyad should be dropped but is there any alternative player who picks himself on performance alone ? any stand out ?
as they say class is permanent, form is not. this guy definitely has the ability.

@Nafi, the "super trundlers" average in the mid to high 140 k's and comfortably outbowled the vaunted english pace attack composed of broad, anderson et al on placid Indian pitches.

I'd say guys like mosaddek (averaging over 70) and liton (average just under 50) are worth giving opportunities to...there are a few that have the ability, riyad isn't the only one and the others are younger.

[Ishmumislam]

back and across technique of mosaddek is confused for weakness by management and some fans.. same happened with steve waugh and smith.. anamul has no future as tests top order so might aswell put him under 3 month keeper drill and see how good he can be

[Match Adda]

My X11
Tamim
somaya
Kaye's
mominul
Musfiq
Sabbir
Sakib
Miraz
Taskin
Rabbi
Mustafiz

[Roy_1]

I would love to see Soumya performing well against us with India wining comfortably of course

His lazy elegance and eye pleasing drives reminds me of Dada, has higher ceiling than most current Bangladeshi batsmen, will struggle against Ashwin though due to not having enough footwork atm

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by Roy_1
I would love to see Soumya performing well against us with India wining comfortably of course

His lazy elegance and eye pleasing drives reminds me of Dada, has higher ceiling than most current Bangladeshi batsmen, will struggle against Ashwin though due to not having enough footwork atm

u hear that Zeeshan? me comparing Soumya with Ganguly has nothing to do with his ethnic background ...

[Rifat]

my revised XI:

1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Mominul
4) Mushfiq
5) Soumya
6) Shakib
7) Sabbir
8) Miraz
9) Taijul
10) Kamrul
11) Mustafizur Rahman

12th man) Nasir Hossain

[NoName]

^ I like that team

[Nafi]

Originally Posted by Neel Here

@Nafi, the "super trundlers" average in the mid to high 140 k's and comfortably outbowled the vaunted english pace attack composed of broad, anderson et al on placid Indian pitches.

Yeh theyre roided up? Whats your point.

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by Rifat
my revised XI:

1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Mominul
4) Mushfiq
5) Soumya
6) Shakib
7) Sabbir
8) Miraz
9) Taijul
10) Kamrul
11) Mustafizur Rahman

12th man) Nasir Hossain

Good team, but no taskin?

Was our best fast bowler... Last match

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Neel Here

@Nafi, the "super trundlers" average in the mid to high 140 k's and comfortably outbowled the vaunted english pace attack composed of broad, anderson et al on placid Indian pitches.

Not even Shoaib or Lee "averaged" high 140s. In an over, yes, but even in a 4 over spell, I highly doubt Shoaib/Lee could maintain an average speed of "high 140s". Defining high 140s as 147+ (91.3 mph) I think only Yadav hit that mark and maybe a few times.

Regardless, that is still very quick in subcontinent conditions.

Interestingly, during the IPL, Mustafiz who isn't noted for his pace clocked a delivery at 144 kph (meaning it must have been at least 143.5).

[al Furqaan]

My 14 man squad would be:

Tamim
Imrul
Mominul
Mushfiq
Shakib
Sabbir
Nurul (WK)
Miraz
Taijul/Shahid depending on pitch
Taskin
Mustafiz

Nasir
Mosaddek as bench