Which bowling attack would you play?

Nafi · #1 August 8, 2009, 10:32 AM

In the warm up match, we saw the seamers take the wickets, and all the spinners were inneffective. Riyad however was very economical.

It is common knowledge that pitches in these parts of the world are much more seamer friendly. And Zimbabwe have a weakness against decent swing and seam bowling and pace.

Without Bangladeshi conditions I really doubt Enamul will prove to have any sting in his bowling, thats why I would prefer three seamers in the team, so which bowling attack would you use?

*AsifTheManRahman* · #2 August 8, 2009, 10:35 AM

Apparently the Queens Sports Club pitches are going to favor spin this time.

Murad · #3 August 8, 2009, 10:40 AM

Rasel
Nazmul/Rubel
Shakib
Enam
Riyad
Naeem
Ashraful

Tiger444 · #4 August 8, 2009, 10:54 AM

if our 2 pacers, and 4 spinner attack worked for us against the Windies then why change it? Plus I believe the pitch will be more spin friendly.. Also last time we played the Zimbabweans they struggled against our spin more then our pace..spin is our obvious strength and we should use it to our advantage

magic boy · #5 August 8, 2009, 10:55 AM

Rassel-Naeem-Ryad-Nazmul

Akib · #6 August 8, 2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nafi
In the warm up match, we saw the seamers take the wickets, and all the spinners were inneffective. Riyad however was very economical.

It is common knowledge that pitches in these parts of the world are much more seamer friendly. And Zimbabwe have a weakness against decent swing and seam bowling and pace.

Without Bangladeshi conditions I really doubt Enamul will prove to have any sting in his bowling, thats why I would prefer three seamers in the team, so which bowling attack would you use?

Actually the pitch is supposed to be spin friendly. I believe spin bowling is both teams bowling strengths at this time.

Nafi · #7 August 8, 2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiger444
Plus I believe the pitch will be more spin friendly.. Also last time we played the Zimbabweans they struggled against our spin more then our pace..spin is our obvious strength and we should use it to our advantage

Top wicket takers were Mash-Rubel-Shakib

http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/...34;type=series

Pace bowlers took 15 wickets

Spin bowlers took 9 wickets

Nafi · #8 August 8, 2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Apparently the Queens Sports Club pitches are going to favor spin this time.

"The wicket looks okay," said Shakib. "It has a slight shade of grass but it is compact."

Tiger444 · #9 August 8, 2009, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nafi
Top wicket takers were Mash-Rubel-Shakib

http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/...34;type=series

Pace bowlers took 15 wickets

Spin bowlers took 9 wickets

oh ok thats for the corrections Nafi bro..but let's look at it this way..Mash took down 8 wickets the whole series but now he isn't in the team..and rubel plus nazmul took down 7 wickets in total..so now the spinners took 9 wickets with only Shakib being the specialist spinner on the team..add Enamul and then more of our wickets will come from our spinners..if we had Mash I would have loved to go with the 3 pace attack but now without him it just seems to risky..

fais · #10 August 8, 2009, 12:07 PM

nazmul, mahbubul, rubel, shakib, naeem, mahmudullah (+/- ash)

Eshen · #11 August 8, 2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

"The wicket looks okay," said Shakib. "It has a slight shade of grass but it is compact."

http://www.cricinfo.com/zimvbdesh200...ry/418450.html

Grass may make it hard for spinners to produce turn, but should help seam bowlers. So it may be wise to pick three seamers this time. My picks would be Robin, Rasel, Rubel.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #12 August 8, 2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nafi
"The wicket looks okay," said Shakib. "It has a slight shade of grass but it is compact."

Ah, I see. In that case, three pacers might not be a bad idea. But do we have anyone in the squad who is capable of utilizing pitch conditions to their favor? I'm hoping for Nazmul to come good as he is the most experienced.

Zeeshan · #13 August 8, 2009, 03:20 PM

What do you guys think of Rubel/Nazmul combo? Rubel is excellent for cleaning up the tail and may be Rasel, Nazmul and Rubel can open up with trident attack rotating while Shakib, Naeem Riyad impales them in the middle.

Eshen · #14 August 8, 2009, 03:22 PM

If they heavy roll the wicket today, grass may not be a factor though (like was the case in the 2nd Test in WI). Sakib said the management will look at the wicket again at morning before deciding on final 11.

MohammedC · #15 August 8, 2009, 03:39 PM

Win toss: I would chase in this wicket.
What do you think Shakib should do?

alibangali · #16 August 8, 2009, 04:44 PM

i dont see a need to play enam if riyad and naeem play. with shakib we would have 3 spinners and pt ash for an over or 2. we should play 3 pacers for the 1st ODi as we are not sure of the pitch. if it is spin friendly we can use full quota for the spinners which will leave 20 overs to be shared by 3 pacers. I think it is the safest choice.

Eshen · #17 August 8, 2009, 04:52 PM

Also keep in mind that Zimbabwean batsmen are not as good playing pacers as Windies batsmen. So, taking a third pacer in the team may not be that risky even if the pitch is not pacer friendly.

bangla-red · #18 August 8, 2009, 04:56 PM

Should be:

Me
Nadstar
BK
Zeeshan
Shakib

nahaz · #19 August 9, 2009, 12:04 AM

If the pace bowlers we have cannot be backed up to perform against Zimbabwe, we should not be considered a test team. Surely Our pace bowlers No. 2-4 should all be able to trouble inexperienced Zimbabwe batsmen. We should not have to fear that they will be smashed against ZIM.

What are you gonna do on a pitch when its pacer-friendly and Mash isn't there? Do we just give up, or hope that our batsmen will score 270+? No, u gotta build their confidence and experience. Especially for Nazmul and Rubel coz they'll be in/around our test team for long time.Take the low risk..at worst we'll lose a series..at best we will give them confidence to trouble anyone we play later on.

Sakib and Riyad are already gonna be there as spin all-rounders. Now choose between Naeem as 3rd all-rounder, and Enam.

Nadim · #20 August 9, 2009, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bangla-red
Should be:

Me
Nadstar
BK
Zeeshan
Shakib

why sakib.......auntu bhai is better......

Baundule · #21 August 9, 2009, 12:12 AM

Anything except Nazmul is fine with me.

Imteaz · #22 August 9, 2009, 10:44 PM

1st match bowling attack was ok. So Nazmul, Russell and Enamul along with Mahmudullah, Nayeem and Shakib combination should be used for next 2 matches.

Sohel · #23 August 10, 2009, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baundule
Anything except Nazmul is fine with me.

... I hear you bro. Have my own issues with Nazmul. He may have extraordinarily good or bad overs like many ODI seamers do, but generally speaking, he inspires no confidence in me. Quality batters can expose him, especially after he begins to run out of juice by his initial 3-4 overs, and exploit his inconsistencies to the point of total dominance. They can, in fact, colonize his @$$.

In the first ODI where I felt he bowled well beyond his limitations, those horrible "hit-me" deliveries punctuated his repertoire at regular intervals. Sudden perversion of line and length at a gentle pace even my 9YO nephew can drive through point and extra cover. Luckily for us, still rusty Zimbabwean batters couldn't step on the gas after giving him the treatment. I don't think we'll get lucky like this all of the time, especially against better opposition, and he remains a quietly ticking time-bomb in my book. Sure he generated a bit of early swing but I feel Rubel can do significantly better in that department. I hope he continues to prove me wrong, improve and perform well. I'll root for anyone in the lineup including Rajin Saleh and Alamgir Kabir, GOD forbid they make it back ...

Robin, the other alternative, is one dimensional and only good for about 3 to 5 overs max. But with better swing and pace, he can be just as effective, if not more so before fading and becoming a liability. Without the ability to vary his length intelligently at this point, Robin is not a good bet either beyond his early overs.

That said, I liked the way Shakib managed Nazmul's overs. The Skipper is someone who's clearly cognizant of the strengths, weaknesses, and overall skill-set of the bowlers at his disposal and I have faith him. He's also remarkably match-focused even at this early age, and doesn't let anything outside the situation in the middle distract him. I liked the fact that he used Nazmul's military medium for 6.5 overs at the right times, brought out his best, and wiped out the Zimbabwean tail in the process.

Isnaad · #24 August 10, 2009, 07:30 AM

Nazmul has turned into a wicket takin bowler.

Tigers_eye · #25 August 10, 2009, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isnaad
Nazmul has turned into a wicket takin bowler.

Just in one match? Wow!! I pray and hope he becomes the terror for Zim in the second. I have no problem with Nazmul/Robin. I have problem with Rubel. That boy needs more A team and academy overs under his belt. Too early. The diamond is not cut yet. We can't afford to lose this diamond in the rough.