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Old March 12, 2008, 07:18 PM
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Exclamation Shahriar Nafees Ahmed in ODIs, the Man with the REAL Auloukik Kaupal !

How does he continue to escape the axe ? The Josephite English combined with those "dashing good looks" ?

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Just the ODI numbers against strong, test playing nations, NOT including the depleted Zimbabwe.

REMEMBER: He's a "top order" batsman, a "class opener".

Total Matches: 23
Total Runs: 411
HS: 75, two 50s
LS: , 4 times
API (Average Per Innings): 17.9
AC (Average in terms of Consistency, subtract HS and LS from the total, and divide by total matches minus 2): 16.0

....... The breakdown .......

Total Runs, first 10 matches: 284
HS, first 10 matches: 75, two 50s, 8 more double figure finishes (51, 10, 47, 11, 39, 21, 17, 13)
LS, first 10 matches: , just once, no other single figure finish !
API, first 10 matches: 28.4
AC, first 10 matches: 26.1


Total Runs, last 13 matches: 127
HS, last 13 matches: 38, no 50s, 3 more double figure finishes (16, 33, 12)
LS, last 13 matches: , 3 times, 6 more single figure finishes (5, 2, 1, 6, 6, 5)
API, last 13 matches: 9.7
AC, last 13 matches: 8.1
Any doubts?

Having said all that, he's still young and more than capable of improving. In fact, I think he has improved a great deal as far as some of his footwork is concerned, and his defense looks more compact than ever. His much improved overall fitness level also contrinuted to remarkable improvements in his fielding.

That said, poking about outside off stump with poor movement of the feet continues to plague him. He may actually be getting worse. I think he needs an extensive break, correct those issues in the PCL, NCL, Academy and A-Team cricket, and make a justifiable comeback at the highest level of limited overs cricket. Middle order will be a good place for him initially, until he scores his way up to the # 3 slot.

When he does, he'll be able to sustain his career and become the ODI cricketer we all thought he was going to become during the beginning of his career. We'll all benefit from that.

Peace ...

PS: He's better in test matches, streaky runs and all. It's not all about still milking those Fatullah heroics.
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Old March 12, 2008, 07:47 PM
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Those figures really do highlight his form slump, i have always been a Nafees supporter and backed him, i still think he has the talent and will bat his way back into form eventually, but with those stats nobody should be exempt.
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Old March 12, 2008, 08:43 PM
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IMO, SN's career is going pretty much in parallel with Rajin's career (although two of them has very different batting styles). Both of them are good minnow bashers; both of them started their careers with some excellent stats, but later turned out to be poor ODI prospects; both of them have some excellent test scores on subcontinental tracks, but neither of them has proved his worth in test matches played on non-subcontinental tracks.
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Old March 12, 2008, 09:07 PM
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Default Moyna

Here are Moyna's ODI numbers. Again, minnow sides are NOT included.

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Runs, first 10 matches: 290
HS: 67, four 50s, 5 more double figure finishes (53, 57, 50, 25, 25)
LS: , twice, 2 more single figure finishes (4, 9)
API: 29.0
AC: 27.9

Runs, last 9 matches: 111
HS: 52, one 50, 3 more double figure finishes (10, 15, 15)
LS: , just once, 4 more single figure finishes (5, 2, 6, 6)
API: 12.3
AC: 8.4
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Old March 12, 2008, 09:12 PM
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Why do I have a feeling that almost all of our batsmen have a better average in their first 10 innings than they do in their overall career?
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Old March 12, 2008, 09:15 PM
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Default Mohammad Nafees Iqbal Khan

Nafees Iqbal sans minnows.

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Total runs in 11 ODIs: 150
HS: 40, twice, NO 50s, 2 more double figure finishes (10, 19)
LS: , just once, 6 more single figure finishes (9, 4, 2, 9, 9, 8)
API: 13.6
AC: 12.2
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Old March 12, 2008, 09:31 PM
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Default Alok Kapali

Alok's ODI career to date, in increments. NO minnows.

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Runs, first 10 matches: 139
HS: 45, NO 50s, 4 more double figure finishes (12, 20, 20, 25)
LS: , just once, 4 more single figure finishes (2, 5, 8, 2)
API: 13.9
AC: 11.75

Runs, next 10 matches: 278
HS: 89, two 50s, 4 more double figure finishes (71, 34, 27, 32)
LS: , just once, 4 more single figure finishes (9, 5, 9, 2)
API: 27.8
AC: 23.6

Runs, next 10 matches: 267
HS: 69, two 50s, 5 more double figure finishes (61, 49, 26, 37, 12)
LS: , just once, 3 more single figure finishes (9, 2, 2)
API: 26.7
AC: 24.75

Runs, last 14 matches: 148
HS: 28, NO 50s, 6 more double figure finishes (18, 10, 17, 19, 18, 10)
LS: 1, twice, 6 more single figure finishes (8, 5, 1, 3, 5, 5)
API: 10.6
AC: 10.0
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Old March 12, 2008, 09:58 PM
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Default Khondokar Mohammad Rajin Saleh Alam

Rajin's ODI career, NO minnows.

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Runs, first 10 matches: 338
HS: 71, three 50s, 7 more double figure finishes (64, 57, 47, 25, 37, 19, 12)
LS: 2, just 4 more single figure finish (4)
API: 33.8
AC: 33.1

Runs, next 10 matches: 109
HS: 23, NO 50s, 4 more double figure finishes (21, 20, 17, 15)
LS: , twice, 3 more single figure finishes (1, 5, 7)
API: 10.9
AC: 10.75

Runs, last 11 matches: 185
HS: 82, one 50, 3 more double figure finishes (28, 14, 37)
LS: , 3 times, 4 more single figure finishes (4, 7, 6, 7)
API: 16.8
AC: 11.4
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Old March 12, 2008, 10:05 PM
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Old March 12, 2008, 10:08 PM
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Thumbs up Tamim Iqbal Khan

Tamim's ODI career, NO minnows.

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Runs, first 10 matches: 205
HS: 51, one 50, 4 more double figure finishes (45, 38, 29, 11)
LS: 3, 4 more single figure finishes (7, 7, 8, 6)
API: 20.5
AC: 18.9

Runs, last 7 matches: 245
HS: 82, three 50s, 4 more double figure finishes (54, 50, 43, 13)
LS: , just once, just 1 more single figure finish (3)
API: 35.0
AC: 32.6
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Old March 12, 2008, 10:17 PM
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Unhappy Ash

Ash's first 10 and last 13 ODIs (to be at par with Abir), NO minnows.

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Runs, first 10 matches: 170
HS: 44, NO 50, 5 more double figure finishes (29, 10, 36, 16, 14)
LS: 1, just 3 more single figure finishes (9, 7, 4)
API: 17.0
AC: 15.6

Runs, last 13 matches: 290
HS: 87, two 50s, 6 more double figure finishes (70, 29, 29, 25, 20, 12)
LS: , just once, 4 more single figure finishes (8, 3, 4, 2, 1)
API: 22.3
AC: 18.5
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Old March 12, 2008, 10:26 PM
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Thumbs up Aftab Ahmed Choudhury

Aftab's ODI numbers, first 10 and last 13 (for Abir's sake). NO minnows.

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Runs, first 10 matches: 163
HS: 67, one 50, 3 more double figure finishes (30, 21, 15)
LS: , just once, 5 more single figure finishes (8, 8, 4, 9, 1)
API: 16.3
AC: 12.0

Runs, last 13 matches: 292
HS: 54, one 50, just once, 9 more double figure finishes (19, 47, 16, 40, 16, 35, 10, 27,11)
LS: 3 and just 2 more single figure finishes (8, 6)
API: 22.5
AC: 21.4
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Old March 12, 2008, 10:37 PM
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Players go through cycles and the better times can come back once they learn to apply themselves over time. Youth in a sport where the best performers tend to be in their 30s, is a major plus once we learn to be patient and see things in proper perspective.

Also, a dodgy start isn't necessarily a bad thing. Enjoy the stats and think ...
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Old March 12, 2008, 10:46 PM
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WOW Sohel bhai.

Nice work. Timely done. It was a much needed thread.

I think it will refresh everyone's lost memory
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Old March 12, 2008, 10:49 PM
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WOW Sohel bhai.

Nice work.

I think it will refresh everyone's lost memory
Thanks bro ...
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Nice work.........reallly excellent.......!!!!!
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Old March 12, 2008, 11:07 PM
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good diggin, shohel vai

now SN along with Ash needs to be dropped....
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Old March 13, 2008, 12:00 AM
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sohel armed with my stats database, in conjuction with mijan bhai and myself. will blow S Rajesh outta the water!

keep up the excellent work!
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Old March 13, 2008, 01:27 AM
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Old March 13, 2008, 04:39 AM
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SN hasn't done anything special at any level ( I do remeber his NCL stats vaguely ) to get back to the national side having been dropped for the ODIs against NZ. His recall to the side is more due to the fact that other people aren't doing anything much better either, rather than him showing great improvement.

I have always believed SN's poor footwork remains a major obstacle to him, to succeed against quality bowling. Whether selectors and Siddons think of him as part of the long term plan for 2011 world cup or let him work his way back from domestic cricket is ofcourse their call.

However, at this moment I don't see any back up opener, other than SN, for Tamim and Zunaed ( who's struggling himself in ODIs ) unless you wanna bring in another untested opener or get back to JO.
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Old March 13, 2008, 05:20 AM
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SN's last 10 ODI scores (against non-minnows): 5, 38, 2, 0, 1, 9, 33, 6, 12, 5
Avg: 11.1
SR: 52.85

JO's last 10 ODI scores (against non-minnows): 18, 40, 24, 34, 22, 17, 16, 80, 11, 0
Avg: 26.2
SR: 54.2

SN makes JO looks like a respectable ODI player, and that says a lot how badly SN has done in this version.
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Old March 13, 2008, 05:22 AM
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SN's last 10 ODI scores (against non-minnows): 5, 38, 2, 0, 1, 9, 33, 6, 12, 5
Avg: 11.1
SR: 52.85

JO's last 10 ODI scores (against non-minnows): 18, 40, 24, 34, 22, 17, 16, 80, 11, 0
Avg: 26.2
SR: 54.2

SN makes JO looks like a respectable ODI player, and that says a lot how badly SN has done in this version.
... Sorry, that's just TOO funny !
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Old March 13, 2008, 05:47 AM
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Taking out matches against Zimbabwe doesn't make sense. Those are ODIs and against a Test playing nation.

There is no need to do a S Rajesh to make him look worse.

How many Bangladeshi players have ODI averages in mid 30's and 4 centuries with 7 50's.

None, period.
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Yah man.. and the THING is.. we were playing ZIMBOS a lot that time..and SN was a comparatively NEW KID.. He performed and performed superbly in WHATEVER matches he was given.. ZIMBOS! .. And thats wat really matters.. So i wudnt call him LUCKY for scoring his runs and 4 tons.
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Taking out matches against Zimbabwe doesn't make sense. Those are ODIs and against a Test playing nation.

There is no need to do a S Rajesh to make him look worse.

How many Bangladeshi players have ODI averages in mid 30's and 4 centuries with 7 50's.

None, period.
It makes sense when there's HUGE gap between performance against minnows and other teams.

At the end of the day, nobody cares how well a player does against Zimbabwe and non-test playing nations if he keeps on delivering F grade performance against stronger teams.
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