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June 20, 2019, 01:21 PM
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Our bowling can survive if there is something in the pitch. If there isn't then we are really screwed. I dont think we could have defended 330 on this wicket either. If you look at even australia's bowling, everyone struggled except Starc and Cummins. And these two bowl at 150kph and they are very skillful. If we are to go next level, we need a quick like Archer, Bumrah, starc, rabada, boult etc to support Mustafizur from the other end.
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June 20, 2019, 01:22 PM
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No luck today.. both the match winners were unlucky.. or did anik gain some luck today??
Shakib cant pull the team every day
lots of Ifs and buts going in my mind right now.. chaseable target, oppurtunity
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June 20, 2019, 01:49 PM
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Only flaw in the team is lack of skillful bowlers/quick bowlers. And yes Sabbir is also a flaw in the team.
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June 20, 2019, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadukor
Our bowling can survive if there is something in the pitch. If there isn't then we are really screwed. I dont think we could have defended 330 on this wicket either. If you look at even australia's bowling, everyone struggled except Starc and Cummins. And these two bowl at 150kph and they are very skillful. If we are to go next level, we need a quick like Archer, Bumrah, starc, rabada, boult etc to support Mustafizur from the other end.
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Amader deshe kobe shei chele hobe 125 kmh na ball kore 145 150 kmh ball korbe ...rubel was phast but also got hit
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June 20, 2019, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by simon
Ei Aus team dhakay ashley shuwaya ditam
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Aei bhoye jiboneo aeibona
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June 20, 2019, 02:03 PM
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2019 WC Fantasy Winner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SS
Amader deshe kobe shei chele hobe 125 kmh na ball kore 145 150 kmh ball korbe ...rubel was phast but also got hit
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Not against warner batting on 150. If Starc was bowling at him he would clobber starc too at that stage. There is no alternative to taking wickets up front. We just did not have any penetration without Saifuddin.
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June 20, 2019, 02:24 PM
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We lost due to lack of risk taking. In international cricket you have to play high risk shots - the innings that made Tamim's BPL innings. In hindsight we could have chased it better. We still need lessons on pacing, acceleration and using power play to our advantage.
But sometimes being reckless IS necessary. Your baby is about to burn or friend die of heart attack and if you play "safe" instead of driving recklessly to go from point A to point B, it ain't gon mean jack.
We lost our patient tonight folks.
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June 20, 2019, 02:25 PM
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dont worry guys, you can still win against pak. pak WC is over anyway.
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June 20, 2019, 02:27 PM
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Really feel very sad for Shabbir. He was a decent up and coming player when he started. His cameos/knocks in 2015 world cup were great to watch. He is prime example of what arrogance can do. He was fine fielder too. That catch of David Warner he could not take - man ...would'a could'a should'a all coming to mind!
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June 20, 2019, 02:28 PM
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This chase needed an Imrul Kayes
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June 20, 2019, 02:28 PM
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Saif was badly missed today
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June 20, 2019, 02:51 PM
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If you cannot be a team that can chase down any total, you have no business in dreaming of winning world cup.
This is how big boys play. Massive respect to the alphas of world cup to set the tone on HOW to play REAL cricket.
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June 20, 2019, 05:12 PM
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The current big boys of cricket are three - IND, AUS, ENG.
NZ and BD are just a notch below. Unless you are one of the big boys you need a bit of luck to move to the next round. Luck is favoring NZ this time around
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June 20, 2019, 05:58 PM
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Consistency is the key team effort as well as number of Match winners in a team.
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June 20, 2019, 07:37 PM
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We won against west indies because Saif and Fizz were phenomenal at the death. WI could have scored 360+ but they scored 320ish..I know we chased the target in 40 overs but if the target was 360 it might have not been so easy.
Today we gave 96 in last 6 overs. which was started by BC heart throb Rubel. if we gave 55 to 60 runs in last 6 instead of 96 we still might have won the game
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June 20, 2019, 08:59 PM
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Aussies were super excellent in the field, we just going downhill in this department.
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June 20, 2019, 10:21 PM
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Few points as a neutral observer :-
1) Bangladesh have really improved as a team and can hold their heads high after the performances in the WC.
2) Bangladesh lost the match against Australia when they conceeded 381 runs. Rubel is not the answer to the bowling problems.
3) Bangladesh V/s Pakistan is now effectively a knockout game.
4) Even teams like England and RSA are yet to win WC after so many years of playing international cricket. So Bangladesh should not brood. Positives are many.
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June 21, 2019, 03:55 AM
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Hopefully the last we ever see of Sabbir.
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June 21, 2019, 03:55 AM
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I think you guys are being too tough on Sabbir Rahman and Tamim. We should give them more chances. Respect our players, they are representative of common Bangladeshis.
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June 21, 2019, 03:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SH Anik
I think you guys are being too tough on Sabbir Rahman and Tamim. We should give them more chances. Respect our players, hes representative of common Bangladeshis.
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I for one know which country you represent of the common people .
Clues:
- The sub continent country which kills their own people and then doesnt own up to the atrocities
- The country cricket team which is involved with spot fixing and still employees the services of such players as their team is other wise bakwas
- The sub continent country where the first gay marriage happened according to the BBC
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June 21, 2019, 04:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Night_wolf
We won against west indies because Saif and Fizz were phenomenal at the death. WI could have scored 360+ but they scored 320ish..I know we chased the target in 40 overs but if the target was 360 it might have not been so easy.
Today we gave 96 in last 6 overs. which was started by BC heart throb Rubel. if we gave 55 to 60 runs in last 6 instead of 96 we still might have won the game
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Exactly Rubel has a history of being massacred in the end overs , conceded 25 runs in one single over yesterday, even after his past history the captain and management don't learn and give him those overs he is weak at. It seems Dinesh Karthik taught them nothing. Mashrafes over was also costly
In WI game we conceded 79 runs in last 10 overs
In Australia game we conceded 130+ runs in last 10 overs
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June 21, 2019, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rifat_02
Exactly Rubel has a history of being massacred in the end overs , conceded 25 runs in one single over yesterday, even after his past history the captain and management don't learn and give him those overs he is weak at. It seems Dinesh Karthik taught them nothing. Mashrafes over was also costly
In WI game we conceded 79 runs in last 10 overs
In Australia game we conceded 130+ runs in last 10 overs
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There was a left handed Warner at the crease. Who would you give the ball to? Even our best bowler Shakib could only manage to get in 6 overs.
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June 21, 2019, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadukor
There was a left handed Warner at the crease. Who would you give the ball to? Even our best bowler Shakib could only manage to get in 6 overs.
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Miraz has done well in containing runs before in that tri series in Ireland the final when after the rain play started and it turned into a 25 over game with WI having 10 wickets in hand, he also did well the last time I saw him bowl after 40 overs in this world cup, he should have been saved for this and Rubel should have been finished off early instead because Rubel is more effective in taking wickets in the middle.
Apart from that Soumya should have been given an over early after 40 overs because clearly Aussie batsmen were struggling to hit him with his medium pace which Mashrafe should have understood early. In the end he did finish the innings but not before the damage had already been done.
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June 21, 2019, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rifat_02
Miraz has done well in containing runs before in that tri series in Ireland the final when after the rain play started and it turned into a 25 over game with WI having 10 wickets in hand, he also did well the last time I saw him bowl after 40 overs in this world cup, he should have been saved for this and Rubel should have been finished off early instead because Rubel is more effective in taking wickets in the middle.
Apart from that Soumya should have been given an over early after 40 overs because clearly Aussie batsmen were struggling to hit him with his medium pace which Mashrafe should have understood early. In the end he did finish the innings but not before the damage had already been done.
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Rubel bowled brilliantly many times at the death and won us games with his reverse swinging yorkers. The most memorable one was in the last WC vs England. Yes he went for runs but on another day he could also have knocked over warner. Any spinner at that stage would have gone for sixes. Look at what happened to Rashid khan. Rubel could not execute the length properly, may be because that was his 1st game in the tournament and maxwel and warner were just relentless. Not just us, many teams are conceding big totals on these wickets.
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June 21, 2019, 09:15 AM
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The pitches we played on have not been supportive for spinners. Miraz, who I picked in my fantasy team, has done very well in this world cup. In Asia, Miraz will be a deadly spinner in any form, one of the world's best. I can see him as the next long term captain in a few years for the next decade or so. Regarding this game, if Australia were to tour us for an ODI series, they will most likely lose the series based on what I've seen in this game. Problem is, they won't tour us for a series for certain reasons, even after this game.
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