Miscellaneous Bangladesh News

[Kabir]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
hang 'em ALL high and let God sort 'em out.

You mean, transfer to God's court soon?

[Rabz]

One thing i never got to understand...

Hasina keno choto loker moto taka khay??
i mean the bribes she took, was merely 1 core, 5 crore etc etc..its like a petty thief style... mon choto thakle ja hoy....

whereas, Khaleda and gong took bribes in 20 crore, 50 crore and more..
they just cleansweeped it all...
now that what you all rajokiyo shobhabh....

khaibai jokhon...panta bhat khaiya luv ki...
polao korma khao....

[akabir77]

Originally Posted by Sydney
One thing i never got to understand...

Hasina keno choto loker moto taka khay??
i mean the bribes she took, was merely 1 core, 5 crore etc etc..its like a petty thief style... mon choto thakle ja hoy....

whereas, Khaleda and gong took bribes in 20 crore, 50 crore and more..
they just cleansweeped it all...
now that what you all rajokiyo shobhabh....

khaibai jokhon...panta bhat khaiya luv ki...
polao korma khao....

Agree...

[akabir77]

I heard a roumor yesterday (no pun intended here) they found kabin nama or something (like a witness from arab) that mr falu is married to K zea....

[Alien]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
hang 'em ALL high and let God sort 'em out.

Yeah, let's speed up the process by putting them all in firing squad. Or hang them, whichever is less humane.

[Kabir]

Originally Posted by Sydney
One thing i never got to understand...

Hasina keno choto loker moto taka khay??

Haven't you heard of the joke about Hasina's mom? The saari that would transform into skirt by the end of the day? May be it's inherited obhbhash!

[One World]

Originally Posted by akabir77
I heard a roumor yesterday (no pun intended here) they found kabin nama or something (like a witness from arab) that mr falu is married to K zea....

ahh in this world of journalism with yellow tinge in everything just kabinnamay hobe na, bier drissho wala chobi lagbe

[Shafin]

Mohiuddin deported from US
Staff Correspondent

AKM Mohiuddin Ahmed, one of the convicted killers of the central leader of the War of Liberation and the country’s founding president, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, has been deported from the United States and is expected to arrive in Dhaka this afternoon.
Top secrecy shrouds the details of the extradition of the retired army major, who was tried in absentia and sentenced to death for his role in the murders of Sheikh Mujib and his family on August 15, 1975.
It was not known whether he is being brought home on a special flight or on a regular one. Two officials of the US Homeland Security are escorting him.
Security has been tightened at Zia Internationa Airport as the homeland security personnel will hand Mohiuddin over to the immigration officials.
The immigration department will hand over the convict to the police who will produce him in court.
Jail authorities said measures had been taken to keep Mohiuddin in a separate cell as condemned prisoner.
Foreign adviser Iftekhar Ahmed Chowdhury told journalists on Sunday that they had been informed of the deportation of Mohiuddin, who lost his final appeal to the US Federal Court, not to deport him to Bangladesh, three days ago.
‘The process to bring him [Mohiuddin] back has started,’ the foreign adviser told a press conference at his office a few days ago.
He said the foreign secretary received a phone call from the consul-general in Los Angeles at 2:40pm Bangladesh time that informed him of the deportation. The foreign adviser, however, refused to give details.
Mohiuddin entered the United States in 1996 on a visitor’s visa and has been staying there illegally. He applied for being allowed to stay in the US permanently but an immigration judge in 2002 ordered him to be deported.
His family and friends lobbied different quarters strongly so that he would not be deported to Bangladesh.
They also tried to convince authorities in the US and Canada, after he was arrested by the US Immigration Department on March 13, that on humanitarian grounds Mohiuddin should be granted asylum in Canada, but all the efforts were futile.
An appeals court also rejected his bid to have his case reviewed and eventually ordered him to return to Bangladesh to face criminal charges. Mohiuddin was to be deported by March 30, which was postponed due to intervention by a congressman.
His fate was sealed when the Central District Federal Court in Los Angeles on June 13 rejected his final appeal, upholding the lower court’s judgement to deport him.
Mohiuddin and 14 others were convicted in 1998 for the murder of Mujibur Rahman and his family and sentenced to death. Mohiuddin represented the Bangladesh government in a variety of foreign diplomatic posts in two decades after the murder of Sheikh Mujib in a military putsch.
On November 8, 1998, the Dhaka district and sessions judge, Quazi Golam Rasul, sentenced to death 15 of the 19 accused in the case. Only three of the convicts were in the dock when the judgement was pronounced.
Later a High Court bench on December 14, 2000, pronounced a split verdict with Justice Mohammad Ruhul Amin confirming the death penalty of 10 convicts, and junior judge of the bench, Justice ABM Khairul Haque, confirming the death sentence of all the 15 convicts.
Justice Mohammad Fazlul Karim pronounced the final verdict as the third judge of the case on April 30, 2001, confirming the death sentence of 12 convicts.
Four of the convicts are now at the Dhaka Central Jail. They are Lieutenant Colonel (retired) Syed Faruque Rahman, Sultan Shahriar Rashid Khan, Muhiuddin Ahmed and Major (retired) Bazlul Huda. They appealed to the Appellate Division against the High Court’s verdict but the case has remained pending with the Supreme Court for more than five years.
Of the fugitive convicts Major Abdul Aziz Pasha has died while seven others, including Major Shariful Haque Dalim, are absconding.

source

[Nocturnal]

Finally it happend. Great. He is back in BD now.

Mohiuddin Ahmed lands in Dhaka
Bangabandhu murder convict AKM Mohiuddin Ahmed reached ZIA in Dhaka at 12:15 pm Monday by a Thai Airways flight, police said. Khandakar Rafiqul Islam, a deputy commissioner, Dhaka Metropolitan Police told bdnews24.com at 12:54 pm that Mohiuddin was at the immigration at ZIA. A prison van carrying the arrested Mohiuddin left for the court at 1:00 pm. Foreign adviser Iftekhar Ahmed Chowdhury had told reporters Sunday that the process of deporting the ex-major tried and convicted in Bangabandhu murder case had started at last. A senior aide to the adviser told bdnews24.com at 3.40pm Dhaka time Sunday, "He is on the plane now." The adviser said the foreign office had received a call at 2:40pm Bangladesh time from the Consul General in Los Angeles that the deportation started.
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[shujan]

This so called reform of BNP and BAL is nothing short of a Joke. Corrupt politicians like Khaleda, Hasina will be allowed to lead their party yet again in the name of reform. They will restate the ghushkhor buddies again in the system to do loot pat. It is hard to believe that these two ladies will become saint all of a sudden just because their party went thru reform. They niether have any respect for law nor they will have any what so ever. Law is nothing to them as they are daughter and wife of some big shots. Hasina is still saying extortion money as donation and Khaleda is still backing her corrupt son. This reform trick is nothing but to save their *** from going to jail. Screw reform! Convict them for murder then let them have the fate of many murderers. Only then reform is going to materialize. That is the only justice they have earned.

[kaisermatin]

36 years of bangladeshi bad habits; will be very hard to correct.

ghus grohita thinks ghus is just a present for doing a job well. they don't feel it's illegal. even the masjids are always filled up with this hujurs with black spots on their head from the sijdah.

ghus data thinks he can speed up the otherwise very slow process by giving money under the table. he does not feel any guilt! It's his money and his priority.

how can we show them this is wrong? any solution?

[Banglatiger84]

Now current energy advisor is being accused of bribery. Its possible allegations are true but it would be stupid to assume that the current advisors are all angels and AL/BNP people are all crooks. The difference is that CTG Members wont be arrested by joint forces and interrogated.

There is every chance that current govt members may be as much as thieves as previous AL/BNP politicians. While we have to be patience and give CTG time we should also not make them out to be faultless heroes.

Energy and power adviser Tapan Chowdhury Sunday said he was not aware of Mosaddek Ali Falu’s statement in which the detainee reportedly told the Task Force Intelligence that Chowdhury bribed him Tk 5 crore for getting a business deal.
‘I am not aware of any such statement… I have no comment about it. Why should I give money as I did not get any business from the government,’ Tapan told reporters when his attention was drawn to Falu’s reported confessional statement made to the TFI.

The energy adviser, however, admitted that his family had partnership in business with former prime minister Khaleda Zia’s political secretary Falu, now in custody.

‘Yes, my younger brother is a director of Falu’s NTV,’ said the adviser, whose interim caretaker government has rounded up many big shots, including Falu, in the ongoing drive against serious crime and corruption.

He strongly claimed that he had no underhand dealings with Mosaddek Ali Falu.

[Banglatiger84]

Originally Posted by kaisermatin
36 years of bangladeshi bad habits; will be very hard to correct.

ghus grohita thinks ghus is just a present for doing a job well. they don't feel it's illegal. even the masjids are always filled up with this hujurs with black spots on their head from the sijdah.

ghus data thinks he can speed up the otherwise very slow process by giving money under the table. he does not feel any guilt! It's his money and his priority.

how can we show them this is wrong? any solution?

Giving bribes is wrong. However, giving bribes are of 2 types:

1) For bypassing rules, as was done previously by bribing customs/Rajuk

2) For obtaining something like a passport or telephone lines. Before, if you didnt give bribe, you will wait 10 years for phone line and maybe 1 year for passport. Even then they will harass you for not paying them and you might end up with the job not done

So is it wrong to give bribe in later case ?

[ammark]

Originally Posted by Banglatiger84
Giving bribes is wrong. However, giving bribes are of 2 types:

1) For bypassing rules, as was done previously by bribing customs/Rajuk

2) For obtaining something like a passport or telephone lines. Before, if you didnt give bribe, you will wait 10 years for phone line and maybe 1 year for passport. Even then they will harass you for not paying them and you might end up with the job not done

So is it wrong to give bribe in later case ?

No. But really the people taking the bribe for passport and telephone line have no right to. They are only doing extortion and chadabaazi with innocent people. if its wrong for cadres to do it, it is equally wrong for these shorkari kormocharis to do it.

[Banglatiger84]

Originally Posted by ammark
No. But really the people taking the bribe for passport and telephone line have no right to. They are only doing extortion and chadabaazi with innocent people. if its wrong for cadres to do it, it is equally wrong for these shorkari kormocharis to do it.

I agree. My point was, is it wrong for a normal civilian to pay bribe to get his/her passport or telephone line, when the authority in question refuses to provide the service without getting money ?

[akabir77]

Originally Posted by Banglatiger84
I agree. My point was, is it wrong for a normal civilian to pay bribe to get his/her passport or telephone line, when the authority in question refuses to provide the service without getting money ?

I agree. I have first hand knowledge or experience what can happen if you don't wanna pay up. My bro-in-laws stuff was opened/looked through, stolen and then returned with half the weight when he refused to pay the custom people and that after 20/30 days. We had seat in the airport for days to get it out as he got hot headed and said he will not pay a penny. not only did he lose his stuff the guy who was taking us place to place to get custom clear said he will not be able to do his job (kinda like a guide unofficial though) for next few months as one of his customer didn't pay up...

So how do say that paying up will be same bad as taking bribe?

[shujan]

Shorkari kormocharis are holding people like us zimmi to extort money. Such as Passport and telephone line workers demand ghush just to provide the basic service. These basic services are our rights. We pay tax to the government to provide those services. Why do we have to pay extra ghush to get the service that I have already paid for thru my Tax. Oh yes I pay tax and so do you.

Government supposed to ensure those services to the citizen. Hasina and Khaleda is getting ghush themselves so who will ensure that the government workers do their job right? Nobody..... You and I are paying and paying and they are getting rich and richer with your and your family money. This need to stop.....

[Alien]

There is a news in Daily Star that Hasina will quit as she doesn't want 60+ leaders in the party. She will quit in favour of young leaders to lead the party.

I cant get the source of the news as DS is stuffed up. It came for a split second before the site went down again.

[Alien]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
gusti kilai EU'er.

Good one

[Shafin]

Originally Posted by Alien
There is a news in Daily Star that Hasina will quit as she doesn't want 60+ leaders in the party. She will quit in favour of young leaders to lead the party.

I cant get the source of the news as DS is stuffed up. It came for a split second before the site went down again.

Deal?

You quit party,I quit case?

[Alien]

DS is working again here is the news:

Hasina has to quit for young leadership


She thinks no 60-plus leader should remain in presidium, working committee; she will be 60 in Sept
Staff Correspondent

Awami League (AL) President Sheikh Hasina will have to quit the post of party chief as she yesterday made a dramatic proposal for allowing young leaders to lead the party.

Hasina, who will be 60 this September, gave the proposal through her special aide, according to which no leaders above 60 will be allowed to remain a member of the AL Presidium and Central Working Committee.

"All leaders above the age of 60 will be accommodated in the advisory council of the party," Dr Hasan Mahmud, the aide, told the press after a meeting with Hasina.

Hasan, also AL environment affairs secretary, said the party chief is thinking about the matter and will start discussions after the restriction on indoor politics is lifted.

Talking to The Daily Star yesterday, a young AL leader said Hasina has already asked younger party leaders to make preparation for the leadership.

"Sheikh Hasina is sincerely desiring a meaningful reform in the party and she wants to encourage young leadership for better future of the party," said the leader, who keeps regular communication with Hasina.

A few AL leaders observed that through this proposal Hasina has finally disclosed her thoughts on leaving the post of party chief, which she has been holding since 1981.

The AL chief had earlier announced retirement from politics at the age of 57, but refrained from relinquishing in the wake of election debacle in 2001 and repression of the AL leaders and workers following the polls.

Now, if her proposal is implemented, apart from Hasina herself, the AL general secretary and most of the presidium members will also have to quit from their present posts as they all are already above 60.

A few such leaders yesterday reacted sharply and opposed Hasina's proposal while younger leaders welcomed it.

"Does the idea exist in the constitution of any political party? It is an absurd proposal. Politics cannot be controlled by age limit," said a senior AL leader.

AL Presidium Member Matia Chowdhury said the matter is still a proposal and the party council will decide on this.

A few other AL leaders echoed Matia's view.

A young leader, however, described the idea as "nice" for promoting young leadership. "The senior leaders will guide us staying in the advisory council and we will proceed on," he said.

The AL chief's proposal has come at a time when some senior leaders of her party have already been secretly preparing a set of reform proposals. These leaders have been reiterating that they were preparing proposals to curtail the party chief's absolute power and not to allow any leader to simultaneously hold the posts of party president and prime minister.

Upon receiving the proposal unofficially, Hasina said she wanted further amendment to those proposals.

"Not only the party president's post, but no other party position should as well be held by the same person for more than twice. Not only the party chief should be barred from becoming the prime minister, but all central committee office bearers should be prohibited from becoming ministers or state ministers," Hasina told The Daily Star recently.

If Hasina's latest proposal is implemented, only two AL presidium members--Sheikh Fazlul Karim Selim and Kazi Zafarullah--can continue in their posts.

The AL presidium members aged over 60 are Syeda Zohra Tajuddin, Zillur Rahman, Syeda Sajeda Chowdhury, Amir Hossain Amu, Abdur Razzak, Tofail Ahmed, Suranjit Sengupta, Dr Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir, Matia Chowdhury and Ataur Rahman Khan Kaiser.

A few other central leaders including Abul Hasnet Abdullah, Prof Abu Syeed, Asaduzzaman Noor, ABM Mohiuddin Chowdhury, Nurul Islam Nahid, Prof Ali Ashraf, HN Ashiqur Rahman, Akhtaruzzaman Chowdhury are also above 60.

Younger leaders like Obaidul Quader, Syed Ashraful Islam, Mukul Bose, Saber Hossain Chowdhury, Abdul Mannan, Akhteruzzaman, Mahmudur Rahman Manna, Sultan Mohammad Mansur Ahmed, Abdur Rahman, Bir Bahadur, Abdul Mannan Khan, Farukh Khan, Dr Abdur Razzak, Dr Hasan Mahmud, and Dr Dipu Moni will get promotion to the posts of these elder leaders.

[shujan]

Originally Posted by Shafin
Deal?

You quit party,I quit case?

Not enough in my opinion!

[shaad]

Originally Posted by Alien
DS is working again here is the news:

If Hasina's latest proposal is implemented, only two AL presidium members--Sheikh Fazlul Karim Selim and Kazi Zafarullah--can continue in their posts.

Younger leaders like Obaidul Quader, Syed Ashraful Islam, Mukul Bose, Saber Hossain Chowdhury, Abdul Mannan, Akhteruzzaman, Mahmudur Rahman Manna, Sultan Mohammad Mansur Ahmed, Abdur Rahman, Bir Bahadur, Abdul Mannan Khan, Farukh Khan, Dr Abdur Razzak, Dr Hasan Mahmud, and Dr Dipu Moni will get promotion to the posts of these elder leaders.

I am not very familiar with the current cadre of these "younger" AL leaders. Could we get a BC-style rating/review/report card on them (perhaps in a separate thread) based on their independence, corruption level, Hasinaphilia (chamchami), etc.?

And if Hasina's proposal passes, will poor Joy be forced to stop his studies and blogging and come back to Dhaka?

[Cricket Crazy]

I dnt know y but all the Bengali are so mad abt politics. Especially BD politics.

[cricket_dorshok]

Amanullah Aman jailed for 13 years, wife for 3

A special judge's court formed to deal with corruption cases sentenced former state minister Amanullah Aman to 13-year rigorous imprisonment. The BNP leader has also been fined Tk 10 lakh and will have to serve out one more year in jail in failure to pay the fine. Aman's wife Sabera Aman got three years of rigorous imprisonment. The judge also ordered authorities to confiscate their property. Aman's jail sentence includes 10 years for earning property illegally and three years for suppressing information about assets in a wealth statement submitted to the Anticorruption Commission.

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