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Old October 28, 2014, 03:14 PM
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another duck for naeem he is losing his way for sure. but at least he doesn't give a false sense of performance like kayes who will blast his way into the team and then get kicked out very soon
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Old October 28, 2014, 03:38 PM
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“This tournament is a good platform to judge the players before the Vijay Hazare Trophy… A chance to test the bench strength,” said MCA XI coach Pravin Amre. - Telegraph India

We are testing our national team bench against their state team bench, still losing so badly! This is really sad.
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Old October 28, 2014, 09:56 PM
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we are a in a persistent down cycle. Papon needs to go. Half the BCB directors need to go.
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Old October 29, 2014, 12:46 AM
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“This tournament is a good platform to judge the players before the Vijay Hazare Trophy… A chance to test the bench strength,” said MCA XI coach Pravin Amre. - Telegraph India

We are testing our national team bench against their state team bench, still losing so badly! This is really sad.
To be honest, Bangladesh is is merely 2/3 or half of a single state in historical Bharat/Hindustan/Greater India.

There are 2 main resources: population (ie player base) and infrastructure/finances. Population of BD is 160 million, less than that of UP, and comparable to Bengal, Maharastra, Rajasthan, etc. Finances, we are inferior. BCCI is composed of what, 20-30 regional state based cricket associations (Punjab, Bengal, TN, UP, etc). Cash wise, BCCI makes more than just 20-30x the amount BCB earns...way more now that they are robbing ICC coffers...in't tours, IPL, ICC events...they make a killing. Thus the average state has access to more funds, at least in theory, than Bangladesh does. If not Maharashtra, then UP, if not UP, then TN. Further, the bigger states would naturally get more money than say Haryana or Assam or Tripura.

Factor in the developed infrastucture and facilities these states have at their disposal. Relative tiny cities like Vizag, Patna, Pune, Gwalior have hosted ODIs and thus have better facilities than major BD cities like Sylhet, Khulna, etc. We are Dhaka centric to the max.

Thus you cannot compare Bangladesh to a Maharastra side. It would be more fair to compare Canada to the state of NY or California.
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Old October 29, 2014, 12:54 AM
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we are a in a persistent down cycle. Papon needs to go. Half the BCB directors need to go.
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Old October 29, 2014, 09:28 AM
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we are a in a persistent down cycle. Papon needs to go. Half the BCB directors need to go.
it will never happen ..downfall will continue
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Old October 29, 2014, 09:49 AM
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To be honest, Bangladesh is is merely 2/3 or half of a single state in historical Bharat/Hindustan/Greater India.

There are 2 main resources: population (ie player base) and infrastructure/finances. Population of BD is 160 million, less than that of UP, and comparable to Bengal, Maharastra, Rajasthan, etc. Finances, we are inferior. BCCI is composed of what, 20-30 regional state based cricket associations (Punjab, Bengal, TN, UP, etc). Cash wise, BCCI makes more than just 20-30x the amount BCB earns...way more now that they are robbing ICC coffers...in't tours, IPL, ICC events...they make a killing. Thus the average state has access to more funds, at least in theory, than Bangladesh does. If not Maharashtra, then UP, if not UP, then TN. Further, the bigger states would naturally get more money than say Haryana or Assam or Tripura.

Factor in the developed infrastucture and facilities these states have at their disposal. Relative tiny cities like Vizag, Patna, Pune, Gwalior have hosted ODIs and thus have better facilities than major BD cities like Sylhet, Khulna, etc. We are Dhaka centric to the max.

Thus you cannot compare Bangladesh to a Maharastra side. It would be more fair to compare Canada to the state of NY or California.
so how come tiny nation like SL wins world cup?
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Old October 29, 2014, 10:15 AM
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we are a in a persistent down cycle. Papon needs to go. Half the BCB directors need to go.
BD has just won a test against mighty Zimbabwe. That too with in 3 days. papon is doing a superb job. He is the best thing happened to our cricket and you are asking Papon to step down?
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Old October 29, 2014, 10:26 AM
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so how come tiny nation like SL wins world cup?
Surprising isn't it? That SL win cups and and NZ make the semis every year. Whatever their model is, it works and whatever we are doing isn't working. If our population was, 30 million like SL, we would still be in WCL division 3 losing to Nepal, Bermuda, and the US.
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Old October 29, 2014, 10:57 AM
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BD has just won a test against mighty Zimbabwe. That too with in 3 days. papon is doing a superb job. He is the best thing happened to our cricket and you are asking Papon to step down?
Flat'er shatey shatey gari'o chai player'der jonno. jono moncho kora dorkar. Amader dabi mantey hobay.
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Old October 29, 2014, 12:21 PM
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Flat'er shatey shatey gari'o chai player'der jonno. jono moncho kora dorkar. Amader dabi mantey hobay.
Bari holo gari holo..bou baad jabe keno?
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oder ar desh e pherot ashar dorkar nai, Eden Gardens e mali hishebe oder niyog deya hok, amra ar kichu pari ba na pari crishi kaj ta sroddheyo Shaikh Siraj amader bhalo bhabei shikhiyechen.

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Old October 29, 2014, 10:50 PM
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Bengal won the toss and sent BCB to bat first.
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Old October 29, 2014, 11:09 PM
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BCB XI: 50 runs in 5 overs.
Anamul Haque 29*
Imrul Kayes 17*
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Old October 29, 2014, 11:20 PM
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Anamul out for 44. LKD and Sabbir batting.

BCB XI: 65/2 in 7 overs.
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Old October 30, 2014, 02:28 AM
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Nasir is crawling back to form. These are good signs
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Really? these are good signs? Scoring runs against street cricketers?
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Old October 30, 2014, 03:10 AM
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Really? these are good signs? Scoring runs against street cricketers?
Its funny that. He seems to do well against the club cricketers, warm ups but crumbles in the real thing. Tells me that he is not suffering from lack of form but lack of skills. Hope I am wrong.
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Old October 30, 2014, 07:13 AM
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BCB won the match by 74 runs

Nasir 74 (75b)
Naeem 61 N.O.(80b)

Shahid 8-2-24-3
Arafat 10-1-38-4
Naeem 7.1-0-55-2

Naeem batted pretty slow for #7 batsman who batted from 23 overs to the end. But he should be given credit for holding the innings together after early loss of 5 wickets. Also made some useful contribution with ball.

Right now Mumbai has two wins, other three teams one win each. Based on result of Mumbai-Karnataka match tomorrow, BD may still qualify for the final based on NRR (given Karnataka lose to Mumbai badly).
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Old October 30, 2014, 08:18 AM
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bring back Nasir & chokka Naeem .
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Old October 30, 2014, 08:24 AM
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Really? these are good signs? Scoring runs against street cricketers?
Few of these players played in the IPL. The likes of Goswami, Shukla and Saxena. hardly street cricketers. A lot the of the state 2nd string players would be either in the A or our national team
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Old October 30, 2014, 08:31 AM
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BCB won the match by 74 runs

Nasir 74 (75b)
Naeem 61 N.O.(80b)

Shahid 8-2-24-3
Arafat 10-1-38-4
Naeem 7.1-0-55-2

Naeem batted pretty slow for #7 batsman who batted from 23 overs to the end. But he should be given credit for holding the innings together after early loss of 5 wickets. Also made some useful contribution with ball.

Right now Mumbai has two wins, other three teams one win each. Based on result of Mumbai-Karnataka match tomorrow, BD may still qualify for the final based on NRR (given Karnataka lose to Mumbai badly).
Let's hope we can sneak in, in some way.

Good to see Nasir with back to back 50s. He should be back for our 3rd Test if Marshall fails. Naeem still proving he's our best backup middle order batsman.

Arafat also making a case for the ODI team although it could be tough with Taijul and Jubair performing well. Shahid has been impressive as well
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pretty disappointing tournament for the batsmen really.

naeem did ok in the last match but in the other matches got a duck and only 4.

nasir got 2 half centuries in 3 matches which is good.

anamul's highest score was only 44 then he got 4 and 0.

imrul got a ton but he also got a duck and then 17.

liton was especially disappointing with all scores under 20 in 3 outings.

shabbir couldn't manage any score over 25 in 3 innings.

soumya similar to anamul got 40 but his 2 other innings were single digit scores.
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Old October 30, 2014, 09:26 AM
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^^So, bascially Nasir is the only one showed good form in the tournament.

Anamul is making his selection to the Test team look ridiculous, unless he is being considered for his keeping ability also.
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Old October 30, 2014, 09:29 AM
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pretty disappointing tournament for the batsmen really.

naeem did ok in the last match but in the other matches got a duck and only 4.

nasir got 2 half centuries in 3 matches which is good.

anamul's highest score was only 44 then he got 4 and 0.

imrul got a ton but he also got a duck and then 17.

liton was especially disappointing with all scores under 20 in 3 outings.

shabbir couldn't manage any score over 25 in 3 innings.

soumya similar to anamul got 40 but his 2 other innings were single digit scores.
great summary backed up by numbers..pretty much sums up the ongoing slumps of the backup players and inconsistency..Nasir will be back soon unless the new middle orders justify their selections and but who knows if hurrying him will have adverse impact on him.
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