Originally Posted by BanCricFan
Perhaps, you're underestimating my knowledge of boxing a little. Yes, I do appreciate the technique involved in boxing and am aware that this bloodsport is considered by its advocates as "the noble art". To me it is anything but noble. In a nutshell, boxers are trained to knockout the opponent by throwing punch or a number of punches to the head, particularly, the temple. I am sure you can understand how that could lead to fatality or serious brain damage. Even a boxing great such as Ali is a victim of this "sport". Many boxers have died in the rings. Life is more important than a sport.
Look, boxing is nothing but a bloodsport for the entertainment of the elite. You don't see the "nobles" bloodying it out in the rings...it is inevitably the young men from lower socio-economic class. Don't you think the days of gladiators, emperors and amphitheatres are long over?!
No one is denying the fact that boxers can get seriously hurt, you mention life is more important than a sport, to most fighters this sport is their life without boxing they wouldnt have the things they do, its a gamble they are willing to take; as for injuries sustained in the ring the doctors and the refree are stepping in to stop the fight more quickly now than back in Ali's time, it is the job of the cornermen to stop the fight if their fighter is taking a beating. A fighter needs to know when to quit that was the problem with Ali, he should have retired in 1975 he went on till 1981; saying this i am still aware that a fighter finds it hard to retire simply because of the addiction to the sport of boxing and the things that come with it. If boxing was removed and banned it will still be done just underground where it is more dangerous and much less rewarding(money,fame ect...), this brings me to my next point which is the amount of income some of these fighters make the money they make can change the life of them and generations to come, they are willing to take these risks in order to get money for their family and themselves, the amount of money they earn cannot be earned doing another job.
Originally Posted by tiger1000
... this brings me to my next point which is the amount of income some of these fighters make the money they make can change the life of them and generations to come, they are willing to take these risks in order to get money for their family and themselves, the amount of money they earn cannot be earned doing another job.
I think you're overlooking the point I'm trying to make here. But, in a way, I think I can understand it must not be easy for you to clearly see the counter arguments as you're, quite obviously, very passionate about boxing . Still, I invite you to see the bigger picture.
Here is some food for thought; if the possession of loads of cash and "things" at any cost is the way to go then wouldn't robbing banks be more of a sensible career path. At least, you wont be putting your life on the line....in an worst case scenario, you will have to do some time for the "crime". Personally, I don't think robbing banks should be considered as a crime -we just have to agree to disagree here. Moreover, to pull off any heist usually takes good planning, logistics, risk management, courage and intelligence (this, just for the purists). I think, instead of boxing clubs there should be Bank Robbery Schools at every corner.
Btw, just one lethal blow from an "Iron" Mike might be too little, too late for the corner to stop any serious damage. Never mind a deadly combination of jabs, uppercut and a knockout hook!
Originally Posted by BanCricFan
I think you're overlooking the point I'm trying to make here. But, in a way, I think I can understand it must not be easy for you to clearly see the counter arguments as you're, quite obviously, very passionate about boxing . Still, I invite you to see the bigger picture.
Here is some food for thought; if the possession of loads of cash and "things" at any cost is the way to go then wouldn't robbing banks be more of a sensible career path. At least, you wont be putting your life on the line....in an worst case scenario, you will have to do some time for the "crime". Personally, I don't think robbing banks should be considered as a crime -we just have to agree to disagree here. Moreover, to pull off any heist usually takes good planning, logistics, risk management, courage and intelligence (this, just for the purists). I think, instead of boxing clubs there should be Bank Robbery Schools at every corner.
Btw, just one lethal blow from an "Iron" Mike might be too little, too late for the corner to stop any serious damage. Never mind a deadly combination of jabs, uppercut and a knockout hook!
I have no problem agreeing to diagree with you about this matter, i can see the point you are trying to make and am simply trying to show my point of view; a phsyical sport like boxing or ufc isn't for everyone and it devides opinion. The point i made about corner stopping the bout was to show that boxing was trying to reduce the risk of serious injuries. Robbing a bank is taking money which you havnt earned, winning money from a fight is money you have earned.
Originally Posted by BanCricFan
I tend to see this matter slightly differently, therefore, have to strongly disagree.
But, fair enough, lets agree to honour difference of opinions
Although you dont appreciate the sport of boxing you must surley appreciate most of the boxers invovled in the sport for their physical fitness and the work ethic some of them have.
Boxing in my opinion, is one among the favorite games across the world. Even I do not like all sports events and am a keen lover of the football news and cricket news, yet I also have charm for boxing because it is a disciplined game.
Originally Posted by tiger1000
Although you dont appreciate the sport of boxing you must surley appreciate most of the boxers invovled in the sport for their physical fitness and the work ethic some of them have.
Originally Posted by salhford
Today, Boxing is a very famous sport. It is a combat sport and martial art in which two people fight using their fists. In that, there are two types of boxing. One is Professional and other is Aamateur boxing. My favourite list is : Ivan Calderon , Manny Pacquiao and Paul Williams.
My favourite fighters would be: Miguel Cotto, Pacquiao and Abraham, Ivan Calderon is to defensive for my liking and lacks the power or aggression to get my attention.
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Timothy Bradley defeated Luis Carlos Abregu (from Argentina) by dominating the relative unknown for 12 rounds Bradley still undefeated Abregu's first loss.
Top Rank promoter Bob Arum's deadline of 3 a.m. came and went Saturday morning with no response from Floyd Mayweather Jr. or his representatives about whether he would accept the terms of a deal for a Nov. 13 fight with Manny Pacquiao.
So there is no deal, Arum (pacquiao's promoter) said, and he will begin negotiating another fight for Manny Pacquiao's.
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Juan Manuel Marquez and Juan Diaz fought the 2009 fight of the year, an epic slugfest that goes down as a modern classic. Their rematch didn't come close to producing the same kind of fireworks as Marquez shut down his rival with yet another tremendous performance to add to his Hall of Fame-worthy résumé. The judges all had it for Marquez, 118-110, 117-111 and 116-112.
Devon Alexander managed to retain his titles by outpointing Andreas Kotelnik over 12 rounds, 116-112 on all three judges scorecard. Prediction: Alexander to win via UD 118-110
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There was a rematch clause in the fight contract that surely will be exercised
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