Cricinfo :Boycott slams ICC and Test minnows!!!!

[sadhat]

Dont worry guys. He is an old guy barking on the street. Looking for light post to pee. Unlease him, will ya?

[Baundule]

Seems, Geoffrey Boycott used his mom long before his comment about bangladesh...

Some jokes already @ http://glamsham.com/humor/jokes.asp?id=8&cat=30

[bdmoderator]

Originally posted by Baundule
Seems, Geoffrey Boycott used his mom long before his comment about bangladesh...

Some jokes already @ http://glamsham.com/humor/jokes.asp?id=8&cat=30

[sadhat]

Look at him? Don't you think he is a crazy guy? He looks crazy to me.

[Rob]

Personally, I would kind of feel obliged to agree with Boycott a bit.

Unlike Boycott, I don't have a problem with BD and ZIM having test status, if they didn't they wouldn't get anywhere I don't think. But I don't see how people can deny that test matches like the ones recently between England and Bangladesh are bad for the game. They are. I wasn't impressed at all by Trescothicks runs againt you, because I knew how easy it was for him.

I feel uncomfortable posting this, but that is my opinion.

[sadhat]

Originally posted by Rob
Personally, I would kind of feel obliged to agree with Boycott a bit.

Unlike Boycott, I don't have a problem with BD and ZIM having test status, if they didn't they wouldn't get anywhere I don't think. But I don't see how people can deny that test matches like the ones recently between England and Bangladesh are bad for the game. They are. I wasn't impressed at all by Trescothicks runs againt you, because I knew how easy it was for him.

I feel uncomfortable posting this, but that is my opinion.

Eat your opinion. We have Test status, it will be ours. No crazy guy will take it away. rubbish

[Rob]

So you think the recent test series' between Bangladesh and England, an South Africa and Zimbabwe are good for the game?

Thats rubbish, they made a mockery of test match cricket and Zimbabwe and Bangladesh completely embarrased themselves.

Its time you woke up and smelt the coffee.

[sadhat]

Originally posted by Rob
So you think the recent test series' between Bangladesh and England, an South Africa and Zimbabwe are good for the game?

Thats rubbish, they made a mockery of test match cricket and Zimbabwe and Bangladesh completely embarrased themselves.

Its time you woke up and smelt the coffee.

Yeah you can think whatever you want.
What we think is that we learnt lots of stuff from the game. We are learning. We beat Aussie after test series. We settle down with english condition then we bounch back. Why you guys dont let us settle down. These crazy pundits (good for nothing old fellow) have no time in their life to wait. They shud smell tea and wait.

one more thing:
We are not in the list of "Two days endup test match"
WI, Paki, Zim are.
We are not lowest scorer against England even though it was 1st series against them.
WI was all out for 54 (Number might be wrong but its something like that)


Edited on, July 20, 2005, 1:22 PM GMT, by sadhat.

[Rob]

These pundits are just lovers of the game, and it hurts them to see such shamefully one sides test matches.

I agree with them in that respect. But as I said earlier, dropping Bangladesh from test status would just make Bangladeshi cricket worse.

The only option is to leave them playing test cricket, hopefully Bangladesh will improve quickly.

As for Zimbabwe, I am unconvinced.

[Baundule]

Dear Rob,

the games were, by far, one-sided. But in test cricket there have been many intances of even more one-sided matches. It's not that only Bangladesh is doing bad.

In both tests, Bangladesh lost the toss and England used the condition very well. A young BD side, inexperienced in English condition, failed to cope with the situation at the begining. But they certainly improved as the last innings shows.

Trescothick's runs are no exception in test cricket. Just to remind, Brian Lara made scores of 400* and 375 against this famous England side. Someone playing against Mashrafee knows how easy(!) it is to play.

Using the words 'bad for the game' is truely harsh. It is something that actually reveals what (am not using the word 'racist') GB is.

[chinaman]

If you already finished your coffee and have some spare time, please take a look at the history of test cricket.

And yes, we were embarrassed but not as much as our opponent who had to cheat ..

Well, keep on talking guys

[Flipper]

Originally posted by Rob
So you think the recent test series' between Bangladesh and England, an South Africa and Zimbabwe are good for the game?

Thats rubbish, they made a mockery of test match cricket and Zimbabwe and Bangladesh completely embarrased themselves.

Its time you woke up and smelt the coffee.

In the game of cricket, mismatch takes place any given time of the year.

Couple of reminders:

WI’s last few games
NZ’s last few games

Now, I am not going to speak for Zimbabwe, as in my opinion they are no match for BD. But, BD only a 4 year old test team showed in this England series that even a new alien condition with unresonable schadule were not enough to stop their progress. They bounced back in the last innings! I just wish we had another test to follow.

Anyways, What you think about the previous series England played against Bangladesh? I quoted one of the match report for you. Look, Be patience, and just see what we are capable of:

Bangladesh frustrate England to set up intriguing final day

The Wisden Bulletin by Freddie Auld

October 24, 2003

close Bangladesh 245 for 6 (Rahman 43*, Mahmud 17*) and 203 lead England 295 by 153 runs
Scorecard


If England hoped that Bangladesh's determined performance yesterday was a one-off, then the fourth day emphatically proved otherwise. Led by Hannan Sarkar, Bangladesh took all the honours with a display of dogged and determined batting as they closed on 245 for 6 and frustrated the attack, who were below-par right from the start. England now face an uncomfortable final day tomorrow and will have a battle on their hands to avoid becoming the first side to lose a Test match against the Bangladeshis.

They took their time, but firstly Sarkar and Habibul Bashar, and then Mushfiqur Rahman accumulated valuable runs and refused to let the bowlers assert any sort of domination. Matthew Hoggard and Stephen Harmison slogged it out with scant reward, but the spinners, and in particular Ashley Giles, were largely ineffective. As England's mediocrity wore on, it was hard to see which side was supposedly the worst in the world.

The tone of the day was set from the off as Sarkar and Bashar wiped off England's first-innings lead with increasing ease against bowling which was at best ordinary and then became positively ragged. At first the batsmen were content to push ones and twos, eschewing the flamboyant shot in favour of the nudge and run approach, but as the morning progressed they gradually emerged from their shells.

Only the dismissal of Bashar with the last ball of the morning temporarily spared Michael Vaughan's blushes. Bashar's wicket, juggled and caught at the second attempt by Marcus Trescothick at first slip off Gareth Batty for an excellent 58, was an absolute godsend for England after their fruitless start.

As Bangladesh crept forward, wickets were at a premium, and Alok Kapali gave England a much needed boost shortly after lunch when he tried an ambitious pull shot off Harmison. The ball flew high in the air and Mark Butcher safely pouched it at square leg (140 for 3). England breathed easier, but Sarkar was still at the other end causing them problems. He brought up his fifth Test fifty with a handsome cover-drive off Batty, and continued to frustrate the bowlers with his patient style.

However, Hoggard replaced Harmison and picked up the big one of Sarkar with the second ball of his spell. Playing away from his body to a good-length ball outside off, Sarkar steered it straight to Trescothick at first slip (148 for 4). Bangladesh had lost three wickets for 28 runs, and England were starting to get a spring back in their step.

But that didn't last long. Rahman and Khaled Mashud then dropped anchor with a stodgy 28-run stand, eventually broken by Giles, who belatedly took his first wicket of the match. He was overdue a good spell and was rewarded for a more attacking line with the wicket of Mashud. Lunging forward, Mashud got an inside edge onto his pad, and Nasser Hussain flung himself forward to take a superb catch diving low to his left (176 for 5).

But again, just as England sensed they were slowly starting to get back on top, their progress was held up by more resolute resistance. Giles slipped back a gear and Rahman, along with Javed Omar, continued to scrap it out, adding 43 valuable runs between them and bringing up the 100 lead at the same time.

Omar took his chances against the new ball, swinging the bat to good effect and increasing the lead as well his handy partnership with Rahman. But Omar's fighting innings came to an unlucky end when Asoka de Silva gave him lbw to a slower ball from Hoggard. The ball would have hit middle, but Omar got a clear inside edge onto his pad (219 for 6). England needed all the help they could get, but in the end even that wicket was small relief.

Rahman, who gutsed out an unbeaten 43 from 149 balls, took the lead passed 150 with a dazzling cover-drive off Harmison shortly before the close, much to the delight of an enthusiastically noisy crowd at the Bangabandhu Stadium. And even though it was the batsmen who accepted the bad light, it gave Vaughan and his not-so-merry men the chance to get off and regroup after a disappointing day and prepare for a testing one tomorrow.

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[sadhat]

I just hated arrogant comments from [edit]. But now I love to see them kick England [edit] in Ashes. I will be very lucky man if Lee smash anyone helmet

Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:01 PM GMT, by sadhat.

Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:07 PM GMT, by chinaman.
Reason: mod.content. Please do not generalize isolated comments and refrain from using strong words. Thank you.

[Rob]

Thank You for your wishes that England players get injured, How respectful of you.

If I am not allowed to voice my opinions without wishes of injury towards my countrymen then I don't think this is a very good forum.

Grow up sadhat. You need to learn how to take a bit of constructive critisism.


Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:12 PM GMT, by Rob.

[sadhat]

Originally posted by sadhat
I just hated arrogant comments from [edit]. But now I love to see them kick England [edit] in Ashes. I will be very lucky man if Lee smash anyone helmet

Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:01 PM GMT, by sadhat.

Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:07 PM GMT, by chinaman.
Reason: mod.content. Please do not generalize isolated comments and refrain from using strong words. Thank you.

Thanks chinaman. Could not control myself. sorry

[sadhat]

Originally posted by Rob
Thank You for your wishes that England players get injured, How respectful of you.

If I am not allowed to voice my opinions without wishes of injury towards my countrymen then I don't think this is a very good forum.

Grow up sadhat. You need to learn how to take a bit of constructive critisism.


Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:12 PM GMT, by Rob.

Yeah its not good forum, but best forum for BD fan

[Rob]

The reason I signed up for this forum is because I saw a post on another forum saying that Banglacricket is looking for more international posters.

With international posters like myself you get more rounded opinions on issues instead of one-sided bias. Making a better forum.

[akabir77]

Rob

Man when u gonna learn??? You r atlking about one sided match then what about last 8 yreas of ashes???

Every team took time in the test. Example india, NZ, SRilanka. You will say they didn't play as bad as BD, i will say then there was plyr with 40 weist like botham. Can you imagine a plyr like that weist even get considered for a test team now? All i want to say is thing is much stiffer then old times and thats why the old time people's scorcard show something else but still it was a one sided game when ever those team plyed the stronger one.

Also it was the other day when we used to close the TV when there was a NZ-SRi first and NZ-Zim game but I guess no one had any hurt burn cause why???

And by the way england couldn't even win a world cup and i know why all the brits play against Boycots mom (The wife beater).

SO don't tell me that the game against bd and other strong team is some thing new.....

I guess you guys still can believe that there r so many Subcon teams r coming up.

News for you another one is coming pretty soon its Nepal....

And yes ICC has moved the head office from london and its not far away to take the brits stat also if u don't get you act straight...(joking this one though)

Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:19 PM GMT, by akabir77.

[sadhat]

Originally posted by Rob
Thank You for your wishes that England players get injured, How respectful of you.

If I am not allowed to voice my opinions without wishes of injury towards my countrymen then I don't think this is a very good forum.

Grow up sadhat. You need to learn how to take a bit of constructive critisism.


Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:12 PM GMT, by Rob.

See you get hurt when I wish against your countrymen.
But when your guru Boycott insults my country then its nothing to do with anything. Ha? His mom can smash Bangladesh team. Just think about it. U got hurt by my wish. What about my country???

[reverse_swing]

Originally posted by Rob

You need to learn how to take a bit of constructive critisism.

Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:12 PM GMT, by Rob.

Do you really believe that it was a constructive criticism!!

[Rob]

The last 8 years of the Ashes and Englands crapness in the 90's are a completely different matter.

The likes of Atheton, Stewart,. Hick etc.. were all outstanding cricketers and Englands position at the bottom of the rankings was because they were a pathetic team mentally and couldn't cope with any pressure. Those 90's teams were much worse than they should of been. You are making your opinions based on stats only, you should look at the wider picture.

Whereas when you look at the Bangladesh team the batsmen have poor techniques, the bowlers don't have control and they are unable to give teams a good game at test level - England in the 90s were.

Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:23 PM GMT, by Rob.

[Rob]

Originally posted by reverse_swing

Do you really believe that it was a constructive criticism!!

Yes, I am not trying to wind anyone up. I was giving my honest opinion, nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

Maybe you should take off your red and green tinted glasses and then look at my opinion.

[akabir77]

Originally posted by Rob
The last 8 years of the Ashes and Englands crapness in the 90's are a completely different matter.

The likes of Atheton, Stewart,. Hick etc.. were all outstanding cricketers and Englands position at the bottom of the rankings was because they were a pathetic team mentally and couldn't cope with any pressure. Those 90's teams were much worse than they should of been. You are making your opinions based on stats only, you should look at the wider picture.

Whereas when you look at the Bangladesh team the batsmen have poor techniques, the bowlers don't have control and they are unable to give teams a good game at test level - England in the 90s were.

Edited on, July 20, 2005, 2:23 PM GMT, by Rob.

If u say so that england was good but all aussis will say some thing else...

Anyway about the BD plyr techniq thats something new that i am hearing from you where as till now every one says that BD plyr have no techn flaw but have temperment problem SO bob don't just envent something of your own ok....

And also with your all the first cass finel cricketers can't even win a world cup ha???(most of them r hired from diff countries i might add..)

So sad.. if we BD had plyed that long i don't how many World cup we had won by now.......
Feel so sorry for you never ever england won any major cup where as BD at least won a ICC champions cup... Ha ha ha

[sadhat]

I think Boycott has nothing to do at his old time. He just saying this to get cricket world attention. "Hey hey Guys I am alive. My mom can play cricket too". Look at his CHELA Warne. I bet Warne will be just as Boycott in his old age. Trust me! He used to take drug, so it will be different - "My dogs can play Nepal. (Nepal will be next test nation, for example)"

[mwrkhan]

England reached the world cup finals three times but failed to win any.

Then again it's one day cricket. As long as BD can win tests I am not unduly bothered by their one day form.

A one day victory is not a substitute for a test victory.